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Website & Forums Shoutbox

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Moss, Feb 10, 2019.

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should the shoutbox be back

yes

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discord is pretty bad

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should the shoutbox be added back yes or no?

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vote here if yes and dont vote if no

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ok vote here if no lol

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wait why is the shoutbox gone

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this thread should just be the new shoutbox

Lego_DW, Feb 25, 2019

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Red-Eyed Knight said: ↑

Memes aside, I've compiled seven reasons why the shoutbox didn't have to get removed. I'd like to hear the admin's defense as well, if possible.

1: The shoutbox was not useless. It could be used to quickly ask for help without needing to make a thread, and new posts were displayed in the shoutbox. It functioned as a public never to be locked thread, which is extremely useful for announcements.

2: Emotional attachment. Many people keep things like their first pair of shoes or the first videogame they beat because of it. You don't have to throw old stuff away to make room for new things.

3: Uniqueness. Neither the forums for Minecraft, Terraria, The Witcher 3, League of Legends, Dota 2, Cities: Skylines, Factorio, ARK: Survival Evolved, Fallout, Garry’s Mod, Ubisoft, Skyrim, Stardew Valley, Tomb Raider, Besiege, Bioshock, Hypixel or Cubecraft have a shoutbox. And that's not counting the the games whose forums are on Steam, which by default don’t have a shoutbox.

4: It was completely unannounced. I could not find any official thread by a staff member about the new community tab. Only Aarontti said anything about it, but he left the Wynn team over a month before. This implies the shoutbox's removal was done unsolicited and by a staff member with barely any experience. The continued radio silence doesn’t help the staff's position on the matter either.

5: Using Discord as a replacement is terrible. It's less easily accessible for new users and it requires a separate program, which some people might not be willing or able to use. Removing the shoutbox and telling people to migrate to Discord isn't a harmless move: you're not moving people over, you're reducing our means of communication.

6: The sidebar isn't full. When the community showcase was added, the shoutbox didn't have to go. The only forums I could find with a shoutbox were the Undertale Forums, which didn't even have a sidebar. Instead, they used a pop-up box at the bottom of the screen.

7: The shoutbox was a source of entertainment, not to be taken too seriously. On the Wynncraft forums, threads aren't supposed to be low-effort and useless. The only place where you could shitpost and truly say anything you want is your profile and the VIP Plaza. Removing the shoutbox could potentially be seen as locking it behind a paywall, because you'd have to buy VIP.

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Also, I heard something happened to the poll. Can anyone explain what?
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May as well just add this to the 'Completely valid and logical arguments for the shoutbox that the admins are just going to ignore anyway' bin, along with every other one on this thread.

I'm honestly starting to think the people of power just don't care anymore and don't want to listen to their community.

Nepeta Leijon, Feb 25, 2019

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Red-Eyed Knight said: ↑

Memes aside, I've compiled seven reasons why the shoutbox didn't have to get removed. I'd like to hear the admin's defense as well, if possible.

1: The shoutbox was not useless. It could be used to quickly ask for help without needing to make a thread, and new posts were displayed in the shoutbox. It functioned as a public never to be locked thread, which is extremely useful for announcements.

2: Emotional attachment. Many people keep things like their first pair of shoes or the first videogame they beat because of it. You don't have to throw old stuff away to make room for new things.

3: Uniqueness. Neither the forums for Minecraft, Terraria, The Witcher 3, League of Legends, Dota 2, Cities: Skylines, Factorio, ARK: Survival Evolved, Fallout, Garry’s Mod, Ubisoft, Skyrim, Stardew Valley, Tomb Raider, Besiege, Bioshock, Hypixel or Cubecraft have a shoutbox. And that's not counting the the games whose forums are on Steam, which by default don’t have a shoutbox.

4: It was completely unannounced. I could not find any official thread by a staff member about the new community tab. Only Aarontti said anything about it, but he left the Wynn team over a month before. This implies the shoutbox's removal was done unsolicited and by a staff member with barely any experience. The continued radio silence doesn’t help the staff's position on the matter either.

5: Using Discord as a replacement is terrible. It's less easily accessible for new users and it requires a separate program, which some people might not be willing or able to use. Removing the shoutbox and telling people to migrate to Discord isn't a harmless move: you're not moving people over, you're reducing our means of communication.

6: The sidebar isn't full. When the community showcase was added, the shoutbox didn't have to go. The only forums I could find with a shoutbox were the Undertale Forums, which didn't even have a sidebar. Instead, they used a pop-up box at the bottom of the screen.

7: The shoutbox was a source of entertainment, not to be taken too seriously. On the Wynncraft forums, threads aren't supposed to be low-effort and useless. The only place where you could shitpost and truly say anything you want is your profile and the VIP Plaza. Removing the shoutbox could potentially be seen as locking it behind a paywall, because you'd have to buy VIP.

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@redx475 I've compiled some reasons why the shoutbox should not have been removed. Would you mind please looking into it? Thanks in advance!

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Finally, someone being serious instead of endless memes and shitposting :P
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yeah its almost like we need to keep repeating ourselves until we get a response

wonder why

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@redx475 I've compiled some reasons why the shoutbox should not have been removed. Would you mind please looking into it? Thanks in advance!
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Unfortunately redx is nowhere to be found since early December. If he was here now, I don’t think he would approve of this decision.

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Unfortunately redx is nowhere to be found since early December. If he was here now, I don’t think he would approve of this decision.
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Judging by the sysadmins I know, I doubt he would care too much.

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Judging by the sysadmins I know, I doubt he would care too much.
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hey he saved the shoutbox once before

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@redx475 save us

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So we now changed from jp cult to redx cult?

I approve.

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redx save us please

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im too lazy to post a meme so ill just bump

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shame, still hasn’t been a single mod that has replied to all the arguments we presented. It’s like the mods were told to not reply to resonable arguments and to explain themselves for abusing their power. Hmmmm

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shame, still hasn’t been a single mod that has replied to all the arguments we presented. It’s like the mods were told to not reply to resonable arguments and to explain themselves for abusing their power. Hmmmm
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dont worry redx will save us

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I will begin to tag staff and ct members who have not bothered to reply to our statements tomorrow if you all don’t reply to our comments

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if I could like 1 billion times I would, as this is an epic jojo meme

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I will begin to tag staff and ct members who have not bothered to reply to our statements tomorrow if you all don’t reply to our comments
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That's a really stupid idea.

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That's a really stupid idea.
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Galileo thought the earth revolves around the sun and people though he was stupid

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