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Guilds Rural Player Discrimination Aka How To Fix Sniping

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Ascended Kitten, Jun 30, 2020.

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  1. Ascended Kitten

    Ascended Kitten The Greatest HERO

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    Why don't they just like, fix game??
     
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    EnderJay456 Aphelion Immigrant CHAMPION

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    So I can agree that this is a problem and that /gu cede would be a great solution but a better way for /gu cede to work would be that when you do /gu cede the guild you are giving the territory for can immediately have it and all defenses placed would be able to be carried over and also making this command only usable by Chiefs+, an example would be:

    LXA takes Desert West Upper and does a 1k50s defense on it, after that one of the LXA Chiefs does /gu cede ESI, thus allowing ESI to immediately have the territory if someone from ESI is there to receive it and the 1k50s defense LXA placed on it would be carried over to ESI, the 1.5k emeralds cost from placing the defense would only cost to LXA (the guild that placed the defense) and ESI (the guild receiving the territory) will not have to pay for the defense at all.
     
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    Magicalyule uwumachine VIP+

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    imperial is evil!!!!
     
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  4. Anbu

    Anbu yeet these squares! HERO

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    I 100% agree with this statement!!!!
     
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  5. Alex1

    Alex1 Alex HERO

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    See, the only problem with this is that there would be no counterplay from the alliance off the map. With our solution, the alliance that coordinates better wins raids, not the one with members with better ping, or whoever had more territories to start.

    We wanted to come up with a solution that makes the guild war scene more interesting as a whole, rather than giving the attackers or defenders an inherent advantage. Using playerghosts, along with voice chat/in game communication will be the key to winning snipe wars, not low ping and macros.
     
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    DeathLucifer Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Bruh why should other guilds pay for you that makes no sense ngl even if it is allies
     
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    TheEpicCajun bee HERO

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    I am epicsex2 and I approve of this message!
     
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  8. sandra

    sandra sandra HERO

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    say it louder
     
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    DeathLucifer Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Evil? No sImps? yes
     
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  10. AmbassadorArt

    AmbassadorArt Protesting bad changes since 2019 VIP+

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    and you think that'll disappear with cath's fix? without being unbelievably unfair for the nonlandholding guilds on the map? That basically means all your cute lil subguildies are gonna turn the cooldown off so the host guild can capture immediately, and I might as well not even try to make progress on any attack anymore. This change would make your alliance completely impossible to stop
     
  11. XeraAndromeda

    XeraAndromeda Empress of Nemract, Queen of Aphelion CHAMPION

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    Dad please feed me more territories
     
  12. DeathLucifer

    DeathLucifer Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    No back to the dungeon no food for you
     
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    EnderJay456 Aphelion Immigrant CHAMPION

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    ok yes that works better now that I think of it
     
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    Hei The Black Reaper CHAMPION

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    I mean it would still make more sense than giving the territory to whoever has the lowest ping
     
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    XeraAndromeda Empress of Nemract, Queen of Aphelion CHAMPION

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    111 Terr ILQ again omo
     
  16. Alex1

    Alex1 Alex HERO

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    The current war glitches that desync the API/in game are due to hundreds, actually usually thousands of requests to the server of /gu attack every second, as every guild tries to claim the territory the moment the cooldown hits 0.

    You're trying to defend a broken, gamebreaking system just because you're abusing it because you think it gives you an advantage, but the funny thing is that it isn't. Even with sniping in its current state, the alliance with more players and more guilds will ALWAYS win, no matter what. You can't cheat your way to wiping guilds off the map, we'll just snipe back (and from today, you can see that it's either equal between us, or heavily favoring our side).

    Would you rather have both sides continue abusing a broken system, putting extreme stress on the few individuals who live in major cities and have the ping to beat enemies in major cities? or would you rather come up with a solution that benefits both sides of the guild game - those off the map and on.
     
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    Goden Everlasting Excellency HERO

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    you'd be able to attack territories quicker if a guild cedes it, it's decently balanced however I agree it does slightly favor the defending side, but being on the attacking side gives so many advantages regardless I don't see it as the biggest issue personally
     
  18. Oromas

    Oromas Du wisdom abr du welden

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    This is very interesting and can be a good option to minimize RNG on war attacks. The current system relies on the idea
    that players from different Proxies have equal ground in terms of attacking. This usually isn't the case and can be attributed
    to network issues. This can get rid of the problem of servers taking a heavy toll from inputs from multiple players declaring
    attacks on a banner or sending a /gu attack message on a territory. This can breath new life into the guild scene since it makes guilds
    attacking have to put in more effort than abuse the work done by another guild during a war be meaningless.
     
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    DeathLucifer Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    You know I kinda get why everyone doesn't listen to us now LMFAO We are just so toxic to each other over the most random things. Can you behave yourself and act civil and contribute to the thread or just stay quite please? People are trying to make counter arguments of why it wouldn't instead of just shitting on the post
     
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  20. AmbassadorArt

    AmbassadorArt Protesting bad changes since 2019 VIP+

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    ping isnt even a problem lol. You guys are literally bringing this up in a partisan effort to screw us over. Why didnt you bringthis up months ago? Becuase we weren't a threat again yet, but now that we are you propose a suggestion that would benefit your dozens of cute subguildies many times over. plus besides, ESI started gettting better at sniping than we did in the end anyways since you sent terr sniper god Pho over to them. you dont need this change, and we'll get killed with this change. Ping isn't a problem when you have a sniper like Pho
     
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