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Pets & Horses Return The Black Horse Merchant

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Moe_Ronickah, Dec 7, 2015.

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  1. BlahBlah161616

    BlahBlah161616 Light Theme User

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    Add parkour and a pit full of Emerald labyrinth golems beneith it too. Also add ladder jumps and 4 block jumps.

    Now is it hard ?
     
  2. Potato Hoarder

    Potato Hoarder Hoarder of all potatoes VIP

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    After a phone charge and a short subway ride, I got this:

    The reason your cost is lower then the first set is because of 2 minor flaws (that can be fixed)

    Figure 2 is relying on the assumption that there is a 2:2:4 ratio for the first horses you breed every time you do it.

    For the "second breed" you are saying that there is a 100% chance that that would be a failure and result in another brown horse. By doing this, the ratio when you are breeding more expensive horses is more profitable then when you are breeding less expensive horses, which have a 100% failure rate in your figure. That artificially inflates the average in your conclusion.

    Understand? No?
    By now, many of you are probably lost so I shall follow up with an easy example. Let's use a dice game for our example.

    Here are the chips:
    Brown chip = 3$
    Black chip = 10$
    Chestnut chip = ?
    What is the chestnut chip worth? :O Let's find out!


    For examples sake, let's say that 1 game will cost 2 chips of the same colour. To play the game, roll a 9 sided dice. (9 sided because you only breed 9 horses in your figure, which added up to a 4:3:2 ratio so it's impossible to do this with anything else and still use your fig.) Here are the roll outcomes:

    1-4 --> one of the same colour chips you used

    5-6 --> a chip of a higher colour :)

    7-9 --> a chip of a lower value colour :.(

    We will use 2 black chips to
    I'll make a chart to show outcomes.
    Round # / roll / return value
    Round 1 / 1 / 10$
    Round 2 / 2 / 10$
    Round 3 / 3 / 10$
    Round 4 / 4 / 10$
    Round 5 / 5 / Chestnut chip
    Round 6 / 6 / Chestnut chip
    Round 7 / 7 / 3$
    Round 8 / 8 / 3$
    Round 9 / 9 / 3$
    9*2*10 = 40 + 9 + 2C
    180 - 49 = 2C
    2C = 131
    C = 65.5$

    On average, you would need to spend 65.5$ to get a chestnut coloured chip. Even if that means swapping out chips for another colour. (Example 10 br for 3 bl)

    Now let's solve this using your figure. (FYI, for this test, one of your mistakes was fixed as we use a 4:3:2 ratio in stead of wynncraft's 5:3:2 ratio)

    For your fig, we will start with 12 Black chips


    Round # / Used / roll / return / new balance
    Round 1 / 2Bl / 1 / 1Bl / 11Bl
    Round 2 / 2Bl / 2 / 1Bl / 10Bl
    Round 3 / 2Bl / 3 / 1Bl / 9Bl
    Round 4 / 2Bl / 4 / 1Bl / 8 Bl
    Round 5 / 2Bl / 5 / 1Br / 6Bl, 1Br
    Round 6 / 2Bl / 6 / 1 Br / 4Bl, 2Br
    (Oh gee, I now have 2 brown horses! I'll breed those, but even though it costs less to breed, making it so that the failing breed shouldn't artificially inflate the end result [/sarcasm])
    Round 7 / 2 Br / 7 / 1Br / 4Bl, 1Br
    Round 8 / 2 Bl / 8 / 1Ch / 2Bl, 1Br, 1Ch
    Round 9 / 2 Bl / 9 / 1Ch / 1Br, 2Ch

    So 12 black chips also = 2 chestnut chips and 1 brown chips?
    120 - 3 = 2Ch
    117 = 2Ch
    Ch = 58.5
    Conclusion: If you fixed the math by doing what I said above and putting in a 5:3:2 ratio in each roll, you should get the first set of correct numbers.

    If you find any mistakes, please let me know. I'd rather be a smart ass then an ass
    ~Potato Hoarder
     
  3. Francis12qwasyx

    Francis12qwasyx Hacker Extraordinaire VIP

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    I dont think getting white horses should be made easier. Its not a necessary item for anything at all. (See on earlier post of mine about that on another thread complaining about horse breeding prices... too lazy to find it right now :P)

    So if anything increase value on the player market, but you cant simply do that as long as people are willing to sell at those prices. And if people are willing to sell that cheap then theres no problem anyway :)
     
  4. Moe_Ronickah

    Moe_Ronickah Traveling through hyperspace . . .. CHAMPION

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    I've read through your comments. My original calculations were incorrect, and following your explanations, I have corrected the errors in my calculations. I'm also either going to steal, or have already stolen, part of one of your previous posts, and edited it for clarity, so that I can fix my "original cost" thread.

    Smart asses I can live with, as long as they aren't cruel. Noting that you were using sarcasm in your comment means only one thing; you weren't being cruel. I'm glad that you spotted the errors, and explained them to me.
     
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  5. Potato Hoarder

    Potato Hoarder Hoarder of all potatoes VIP

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    You managed not to get angry showing maturity. I'm usually not a smart ass but it's only a trade off if I'm spending 2 hours redoing all of my math. I didn't respond as well as I should have. In the face of disrespect, you didn't mirror it and I respect that. That in itself deserves a follow.
     
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  6. Stoker

    Stoker The only remaining scarfblob

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    What's algebra?
     
  7. Potato Hoarder

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    In its most general form, algebra is the study of mathematical symbols and the rules for manipulating these symbols; it is a unifying thread of almost all of mathematics. As such, it includes everything from elementary equation solving to the study of abstractions such as groups, rings, and fields.
     
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    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Ok, now thats being a bit of a SmartA**

    Also, btw, I don't remember ever seeing you on the fourm until today, are you new? If so, welcome to the Fourms!
     
  9. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    He has been here since 2014
     
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    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    gg
     
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    Moe_Ronickah Traveling through hyperspace . . .. CHAMPION

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    No, it's actually a very clear and concise definition of algebra, even if it was partially copied from a very large, common, website, that we are all familiar with. Being a smart aleck or a smart @ss would have been to say "It's the set of brassieres that are worn by various algae."
     
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    Moe_Ronickah Traveling through hyperspace . . .. CHAMPION

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    If considered by age, I have that in droves. If considered mentally, @Noobynatty did a tremendous favor for me, in a private conversation with her. Her observations and advice were impeccable, so I've taken them to heart. In a nutshell, what I used for dealing with some of my colleagues, I don't need here, in this community.
     
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  15. Potato Hoarder

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    I sort of did that to two other people. One got so mad that he ended up saying stuff soo immature, he ended up closing his account. The second, if he passed, would have gotten both a seekers aid and an ocean map. He didn't and let emotion get the better of him. The third passed. I have a reward but I'll have to go in game to find it.
     
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