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Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by FRANCISS, Apr 29, 2017.

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Now before you comment ''This has been suggested before,'' I know that. I am only posting this as I have not seen a suggestion of this in a long time, and think it is an incredible idea. Also, the other posts that were about this lacked detail and I've decided to make one. Also, please do not comment ''All this will do is lag out the server more than it already does.'' I know that it may lag, but Wynncraft survives with everything else going on in it, so this should be fine. (BUT 15 MAGES CAN CLEAR IT SO EASILY OMGOMGOMG. There will be a 5 person limit on each class, so you don't just have 15 mages healing and using meteors)
Now, into the actual post.

RAIDS.
Ever played a MMORPG Which is not wynncraft? Well, most of the time, they have a thing called ''RAIDS.'' These are large scale dungeons which take a large amount of teamwork and persistence to beat. In order to defeat these raids you will need large amounts of people and a lot of spare time. Raids will also get players on who are level 100 and have nothing else to do, and they will be able to collect new items by doing this ''raids'' :)

COOLDOWN
There of course will be a cool down on the raids. My suggestion is that there will be a raid maybe once or twice a week, and the first group there will be the only one allowed inside. This would remove the chance of people running the dungeon over and over again and getting constant mythics. I would also suggest that the group that defeats the dungeon will not be able to participate the next one.

THE BASIC PREMISE
Now, how it works. You gather your group and go to the raid ''dungeon'' entrance. Here is an example I made up:

The Haunted LABYRINTH
Raid dungeon (15 players needed)

To enter the dungeon you will have to pay a large amount of in game currency, LE. I have not decided the figure on the cost for the entrance of 15 players, but it will be a large amount. When you buy the ''raid'' ticket every person in your ''Raid group'' at the area of the raid dungeon will be teleported inside. From this point there will be multiple puzzles, waves of mobs and bosses, all incredibly difficult, that you will have to clear. There will most likely be 4 normal boss battles, each with a number of puzzles and waves in between each other. Now, if you finish a boss, you will be given a choice. Take the loot from the boss (for example, 4 legendary items) or carry on with the raid. Now if you chose to leave, you simply get teleported out, and wont be able to do the raid again.

However, if they chose to stay, the legends they got will be added to the pool, and if they lose (more than half the people die) they will be sent out without anything, and will have to wait for the next raid. Say they continue, they will keep facing the bosses until they have defeated a total of 4 strong bosses, maybe similar Cybel (but will have much more health and attack, as this is supposed to be incredibly difficult) After the 4 bosses their will be a large wave of mobs that you will have to defeat, and then a puzzle which is also difficult. After completing all these tasks, there will be a final boss.

This final boss will be incredibly strong and difficult to kill, with insane health regeneration and dps, being able to 1 shot multiple players at once. If the players overcome this boss they will receive amazing loot, including 1-2 mythics. After the raid ends they will all be sent out and everyone will have to wait a month or two for the next large scale raid dungeon.

LOOT SPLITTING
If this is implemented, I would suggest a method like so.
Chance of winning amazing loot:
Top dps: 33.3%
Top healing: 33.3%
Top damage taken: 33.3%

So basically there will be a random chance between the people who did the most work in the whole dungeon, and will be a completely random pull. Also, by the time that they get to the 5th boss there will be at least one legend for everyone, and one mythic for the lucky fella. This will also help people who have opened 130k chests and killed 100k mobs and got no mythics (feelsbadman) to get good gear and mythics.

MYTHICS = TOO OP?
As suggested by EnderCraft the mythics that are dropped from the final boss or reward, could be UNTRADABLE. Yes, you could not trade them. This way the economy would not be broken by the same op guild doing dungeons and getting mythics, but allowing new builds and weapons. There could be 1 new mythic for each class, but it's up to GM's and everyone else if this actually is implemented.

TEAMWORK
The whole basis of raid dungeons is that people are to work together in order to complete it. Currently, wynncraft is not a great MMORPG. As it lacks communication between players and people working together to do anything. *Apart from say Qira/ToA* Which themselves only take a max of 3 people.
This implementation may also urge people to talk and have leaders and strategists, telling the members of the Raid group what to do throughout the whole raid.
It would add something that wynncraft has been missing for a very long time.

LOCATIONS
I am truly not sure where any of these would be located, but they may appear in random places. For example a raid dungeon called ''Dragon Peak'' Could be placed at where the dragon currently is for the thanos quest. A different Idea I had is the ''Undead Tomb'' which would be located east of almuj in the desert that is behind it. But nothing is set in stone about locations, as it would truly be up to the staff and owners.

MOBS
The mobs will be as following, for ''The Haunted LABYRINTH'' the raid dungeon I suggested earlier.

Minotaur's offspring:
Spell: Charge - 2k dam
Health: 9,000
Attack speed: Slow
These creatures will be quick and pesky, and charge around.
Weak: Fire
Attack: Earth
Defence: Thunder

Malicious Mantis:
Spell: Projectile (ghast tear) - 1k dam
Health: 5,000
Attack speed: Fast
These will dart around and attack you from afar.
Weak: Water
Attack: Thunder
Defence: Earth

Calamity demon:
Spell: Uppercut - 3k dam
Health: 15,000
Attack speed: normal
Warning: Very dangerous.
Weak: Earth
Defence: Water
Attack: Thunder

The point of these mobs is not that they are incredibly strong, but that there are lots of them attacking you at once, in hordes.

BOSSES
Here are a few examples of bosses that could be used in the raids.

BOSS 1:
The Dead Minotaur.
Level: 175
Damage 5/5 - 2k melee (normal speed)
Speed 3/5
Range 1/5
Health: 400,000
This boss would do large amounts of damage and charge around the arena, nearly 1 hitting most players, but would die quickly if it was aggro'd onto tanks who could survive it's outrageous damage.
Weak: Fire
Attack: Earth
Defence: Thunder
Spells: Charge - 8k damage.

BOSS 2:
Manti, the insect.
Level: 150
Damage 2/5 - 1k projectile (Fast speed)
Speed 5/5
Range 2/5
Health: 600,000
This boss would zoom around the area and pick off any person not paying attention, and would be difficult to hit. But would be killed easily after being frozen.
Weak: Water
Attack: Thunder
Defence: Earth
Spells: Super Projectile - 6k damage.

FINAL BOSS:
Oni, the master of calamity.
Level: 300
Damage 5/5 - 8k melee (Normal speed)
Speed 3/5
Range 4/5
Health: 1,000,000
This beast of a demon is fast, but incredibly strong. He can knock you out with one blow, either from his claws, or from the fire that he spits.
Weak: Neutral
Attack: All elements
Defense: All elements
Spells: Charge - 15k damage. (1 hits most players)
Fire breath - 7k damage.

DROPS

Malacious
Slow attack speed
1-400 neutral damage
1-400 fire damage
+2/4 mr
+2000 health
+40% health regen
+20 defense
-20 intelligence
+20% fire damage
-50% water damage
Created by a calamity demon in the depths of hell, with enough power to destroy an army in a single blow.
Untradable Mythic
(spear)

This is only an example of one of the mythic drops from the final boss. :)

Any of your examples will be appreciated :D

CLASS LIMITATIONS
Now, you would probably think that you could use something such as 15 mages and just sweep everything, all stacking together and healing and using meteors? Well no. There will be a limit to every class (Probably around 5 of each) so that 15 mages or 15 mana archers don't wipe out all the bosses.

- Thats it for me, tell me if you don't like anything about this post or anything I should change. Any help is appreciated.

-Seki, aka Ethanol (Sorry if it's a bit messy, had to add a bit in)

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yeah...
im not gonna read a black text with dark theme

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Mmm, it obviously needs tweaking, but the general idea is solid, and the rest would be done by GMs and whatnot... You have my support.

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After the update you made to it, it looks way more promising!

Just one thing though; The mythic weapon you made has mana regen, not base HP regen. Judging on the stats and base dmg, it appears that this weapon is HEAVILY based on Fire, which is based on HP and HP Regen. Having a high percentage of HP regen, but low base HP regen will make it as effective as an oak spear against D.Cave. Possibly switch the MR to Base HP Regen? Just a small thing that sort of made me think.

I sort of think you still could elaborate more on the types of puzzles in the raids though. Would it be like a slider puzzle, or like the Block thing in Wynn ExB? The 4 colored glass in Wynn ExD? How about the Desperate Metal-esque puzzles? Bit more detail on this part could be nice.

tl;dr: Great improvement, change MR on spear idea to base hp regen, and more elaboration on the puzzles.
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Thanks! It means alot, and done.

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I can't give you feedback until you remove underline and make all text none.
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I've changed the majority of the text to ''none''

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Mmm, it obviously needs tweaking, but the general idea is solid, and the rest would be done by GMs and whatnot... You have my support.
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Thankyou! What do you think needs tweaking?

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I've changed the majority of the text to ''none''
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Yet not even 50% of it is. Why have it just black? It doesn't kill to have 'none'

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I have clicked on 'edit' and highlighted all of the thread, and changed it to none. I however think it is bugged..

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Thanks! It means alot, and done.

I've changed the majority of the text to ''none''

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Thankyou! What do you think needs tweaking?
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Mmm, really just things GMs, would decide like mobs, bosses, etc.

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Sekizen said: ↑

Now before you comment ''This has been suggested before,'' I know that. I am only posting this as I have not seen a suggestion of this in a long time, and think it is an incredible idea. Also, the other posts that were about this lacked detail and I've decided to make one. Also, please do not comment ''All this will do is lag out the server more than it already does.'' I know that it may lag, but Wynncraft survives with everything else going on in it, so this should be fine. (BUT 15 MAGES CAN CLEAR IT SO EASILY OMGOMGOMG. There will be a 5 person limit on each class, so you don't just have 15 mages healing and using meteors)
Now, into the actual post.

RAIDS.
Ever played a MMORPG Which is not wynncraft? Well, most of the time, they have a thing called ''RAIDS.'' These are large scale dungeons which take a large amount of teamwork and persistence to beat. In order to defeat these raids you will need large amounts of people and a lot of spare time. Raids will also get players on who are level 100 and have nothing else to do, and they will be able to collect new items by doing this ''raids'' :)

COOLDOWN
There of course will be a cool down on the raids. My suggestion is that there will be a raid maybe once or twice a week, and the first group there will be the only one allowed inside. This would remove the chance of people running the dungeon over and over again and getting constant mythics. I would also suggest that the group that defeats the dungeon will not be able to participate the next one.

THE BASIC PREMISE
Now, how it works. You gather your group and go to the raid ''dungeon'' entrance. Here is an example I made up:

The Haunted LABYRINTH
Raid dungeon (15 players needed)

To enter the dungeon you will have to pay a large amount of in game currency, LE. I have not decided the figure on the cost for the entrance of 15 players, but it will be a large amount. When you buy the ''raid'' ticket every person in your ''Raid group'' at the area of the raid dungeon will be teleported inside. From this point there will be multiple puzzles, waves of mobs and bosses, all incredibly difficult, that you will have to clear. There will most likely be 4 normal boss battles, each with a number of puzzles and waves in between each other. Now, if you finish a boss, you will be given a choice. Take the loot from the boss (for example, 4 legendary items) or carry on with the raid. Now if you chose to leave, you simply get teleported out, and wont be able to do the raid again.

However, if they chose to stay, the legends they got will be added to the pool, and if they lose (more than half the people die) they will be sent out without anything, and will have to wait for the next raid. Say they continue, they will keep facing the bosses until they have defeated a total of 4 strong bosses, maybe similar Cybel (but will have much more health and attack, as this is supposed to be incredibly difficult) After the 4 bosses their will be a large wave of mobs that you will have to defeat, and then a puzzle which is also difficult. After completing all these tasks, there will be a final boss.

This final boss will be incredibly strong and difficult to kill, with insane health regeneration and dps, being able to 1 shot multiple players at once. If the players overcome this boss they will receive amazing loot, including 1-2 mythics. After the raid ends they will all be sent out and everyone will have to wait a month or two for the next large scale raid dungeon.

LOOT SPLITTING
If this is implemented, I would suggest a method like so.
Chance of winning amazing loot:
Top dps: 33.3%
Top healing: 33.3%
Top damage taken: 33.3%

So basically there will be a random chance between the people who did the most work in the whole dungeon, and will be a completely random pull. Also, by the time that they get to the 5th boss there will be at least one legend for everyone, and one mythic for the lucky fella. This will also help people who have opened 130k chests and killed 100k mobs and got no mythics (feelsbadman) to get good gear and mythics.

MYTHICS = TOO OP?
As suggested by EnderCraft the mythics that are dropped from the final boss or reward, could be UNTRADABLE. Yes, you could not trade them. This way the economy would not be broken by the same op guild doing dungeons and getting mythics, but allowing new builds and weapons. There could be 1 new mythic for each class, but it's up to GM's and everyone else if this actually is implemented.

TEAMWORK
The whole basis of raid dungeons is that people are to work together in order to complete it. Currently, wynncraft is not a great MMORPG. As it lacks communication between players and people working together to do anything. *Apart from say Qira/ToA* Which themselves only take a max of 3 people.
This implementation may also urge people to talk and have leaders and strategists, telling the members of the Raid group what to do throughout the whole raid.
It would add something that wynncraft has been missing for a very long time.

LOCATIONS
I am truly not sure where any of these would be located, but they may appear in random places. For example a raid dungeon called ''Dragon Peak'' Could be placed at where the dragon currently is for the thanos quest. A different Idea I had is the ''Undead Tomb'' which would be located east of almuj in the desert that is behind it. But nothing is set in stone about locations, as it would truly be up to the staff and owners.

MOBS
The mobs will be as following, for ''The Haunted LABYRINTH'' the raid dungeon I suggested earlier.

Minotaur's offspring:
Spell: Charge - 2k dam
Health: 9,000
Attack speed: Slow
These creatures will be quick and pesky, and charge around.
Weak: Fire
Attack: Earth
Defence: Thunder

Malicious Mantis:
Spell: Projectile (ghast tear) - 1k dam
Health: 5,000
Attack speed: Fast
These will dart around and attack you from afar.
Weak: Water
Attack: Thunder
Defence: Earth

Calamity demon:
Spell: Uppercut - 3k dam
Health: 15,000
Attack speed: normal
Warning: Very dangerous.
Weak: Earth
Defence: Water
Attack: Thunder

The point of these mobs is not that they are incredibly strong, but that there are lots of them attacking you at once, in hordes.

BOSSES
Here are a few examples of bosses that could be used in the raids.

BOSS 1:
The Dead Minotaur.
Level: 175
Damage 5/5 - 2k melee (normal speed)
Speed 3/5
Range 1/5
Health: 400,000
This boss would do large amounts of damage and charge around the arena, nearly 1 hitting most players, but would die quickly if it was aggro'd onto tanks who could survive it's outrageous damage.
Weak: Fire
Attack: Earth
Defence: Thunder
Spells: Charge - 8k damage.

BOSS 2:
Manti, the insect.
Level: 150
Damage 2/5 - 1k projectile (Fast speed)
Speed 5/5
Range 2/5
Health: 600,000
This boss would zoom around the area and pick off any person not paying attention, and would be difficult to hit. But would be killed easily after being frozen.
Weak: Water
Attack: Thunder
Defence: Earth
Spells: Super Projectile - 6k damage.

FINAL BOSS:
Oni, the master of calamity.
Level: 300
Damage 5/5 - 8k melee (Normal speed)
Speed 3/5
Range 4/5
Health: 1,000,000
This beast of a demon is fast, but incredibly strong. He can knock you out with one blow, either from his claws, or from the fire that he spits.
Weak: Neutral
Attack: All elements
Defense: All elements
Spells: Charge - 15k damage. (1 hits most players)
Fire breath - 7k damage.

DROPS

Malacious
Slow attack speed
1-400 neutral damage
1-400 fire damage
+450 health regen
+2000 health
+40% health regen
+20 defense
-20 intelligence
+20% fire damage
-50% water damage
Created by a calamity demon in the depths of hell, with enough power to destroy an army in a single blow.
Untradable Mythic
(spear)

This is only an example of one of the mythic drops from the final boss. :)

Any of your examples will be appreciated :D

CLASS LIMITATIONS
Now, you would probably think that you could use something such as 15 mages and just sweep everything, all stacking together and healing and using meteors? Well no. There will be a limit to every class (Probably around 5 of each) so that 15 mages or 15 mana archers don't wipe out all the bosses.

- Thats it for me, tell me if you don't like anything about this post or anything I should change. Any help is appreciated.

-Seki, aka Ethanol (Sorry if it's a bit messy, had to add a bit in)

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rip dark theme, and is the "super projectile" spell simply the mobs' meteor spell or something else?

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Sekizen said: ↑

Now before you comment ''This has been suggested before,'' I know that. I am only posting this as I have not seen a suggestion of this in a long time, and think it is an incredible idea. Also, the other posts that were about this lacked detail and I've decided to make one. Also, please do not comment ''All this will do is lag out the server more than it already does.'' I know that it may lag, but Wynncraft survives with everything else going on in it, so this should be fine. (BUT 15 MAGES CAN CLEAR IT SO EASILY OMGOMGOMG. There will be a 5 person limit on each class, so you don't just have 15 mages healing and using meteors)
Now, into the actual post.

RAIDS.
Ever played a MMORPG Which is not wynncraft? Well, most of the time, they have a thing called ''RAIDS.'' These are large scale dungeons which take a large amount of teamwork and persistence to beat. In order to defeat these raids you will need large amounts of people and a lot of spare time. Raids will also get players on who are level 100 and have nothing else to do, and they will be able to collect new items by doing this ''raids'' :)

COOLDOWN
There of course will be a cool down on the raids. My suggestion is that there will be a raid maybe once or twice a week, and the first group there will be the only one allowed inside. This would remove the chance of people running the dungeon over and over again and getting constant mythics. I would also suggest that the group that defeats the dungeon will not be able to participate the next one.

THE BASIC PREMISE
Now, how it works. You gather your group and go to the raid ''dungeon'' entrance. Here is an example I made up:

The Haunted LABYRINTH
Raid dungeon (15 players needed)

To enter the dungeon you will have to pay a large amount of in game currency, LE. I have not decided the figure on the cost for the entrance of 15 players, but it will be a large amount. When you buy the ''raid'' ticket every person in your ''Raid group'' at the area of the raid dungeon will be teleported inside. From this point there will be multiple puzzles, waves of mobs and bosses, all incredibly difficult, that you will have to clear. There will most likely be 4 normal boss battles, each with a number of puzzles and waves in between each other. Now, if you finish a boss, you will be given a choice. Take the loot from the boss (for example, 4 legendary items) or carry on with the raid. Now if you chose to leave, you simply get teleported out, and wont be able to do the raid again.

However, if they chose to stay, the legends they got will be added to the pool, and if they lose (more than half the people die) they will be sent out without anything, and will have to wait for the next raid. Say they continue, they will keep facing the bosses until they have defeated a total of 4 strong bosses, maybe similar Cybel (but will have much more health and attack, as this is supposed to be incredibly difficult) After the 4 bosses their will be a large wave of mobs that you will have to defeat, and then a puzzle which is also difficult. After completing all these tasks, there will be a final boss.

This final boss will be incredibly strong and difficult to kill, with insane health regeneration and dps, being able to 1 shot multiple players at once. If the players overcome this boss they will receive amazing loot, including 1-2 mythics. After the raid ends they will all be sent out and everyone will have to wait a month or two for the next large scale raid dungeon.

LOOT SPLITTING
If this is implemented, I would suggest a method like so.
Chance of winning amazing loot:
Top dps: 33.3%
Top healing: 33.3%
Top damage taken: 33.3%

So basically there will be a random chance between the people who did the most work in the whole dungeon, and will be a completely random pull. Also, by the time that they get to the 5th boss there will be at least one legend for everyone, and one mythic for the lucky fella. This will also help people who have opened 130k chests and killed 100k mobs and got no mythics (feelsbadman) to get good gear and mythics.

MYTHICS = TOO OP?
As suggested by EnderCraft the mythics that are dropped from the final boss or reward, could be UNTRADABLE. Yes, you could not trade them. This way the economy would not be broken by the same op guild doing dungeons and getting mythics, but allowing new builds and weapons. There could be 1 new mythic for each class, but it's up to GM's and everyone else if this actually is implemented.

TEAMWORK
The whole basis of raid dungeons is that people are to work together in order to complete it. Currently, wynncraft is not a great MMORPG. As it lacks communication between players and people working together to do anything. *Apart from say Qira/ToA* Which themselves only take a max of 3 people.
This implementation may also urge people to talk and have leaders and strategists, telling the members of the Raid group what to do throughout the whole raid.
It would add something that wynncraft has been missing for a very long time.

LOCATIONS
I am truly not sure where any of these would be located, but they may appear in random places. For example a raid dungeon called ''Dragon Peak'' Could be placed at where the dragon currently is for the thanos quest. A different Idea I had is the ''Undead Tomb'' which would be located east of almuj in the desert that is behind it. But nothing is set in stone about locations, as it would truly be up to the staff and owners.

MOBS
The mobs will be as following, for ''The Haunted LABYRINTH'' the raid dungeon I suggested earlier.

Minotaur's offspring:
Spell: Charge - 2k dam
Health: 9,000
Attack speed: Slow
These creatures will be quick and pesky, and charge around.
Weak: Fire
Attack: Earth
Defence: Thunder

Malicious Mantis:
Spell: Projectile (ghast tear) - 1k dam
Health: 5,000
Attack speed: Fast
These will dart around and attack you from afar.
Weak: Water
Attack: Thunder
Defence: Earth

Calamity demon:
Spell: Uppercut - 3k dam
Health: 15,000
Attack speed: normal
Warning: Very dangerous.
Weak: Earth
Defence: Water
Attack: Thunder

The point of these mobs is not that they are incredibly strong, but that there are lots of them attacking you at once, in hordes.

BOSSES
Here are a few examples of bosses that could be used in the raids.

BOSS 1:
The Dead Minotaur.
Level: 175
Damage 5/5 - 2k melee (normal speed)
Speed 3/5
Range 1/5
Health: 400,000
This boss would do large amounts of damage and charge around the arena, nearly 1 hitting most players, but would die quickly if it was aggro'd onto tanks who could survive it's outrageous damage.
Weak: Fire
Attack: Earth
Defence: Thunder
Spells: Charge - 8k damage.

BOSS 2:
Manti, the insect.
Level: 150
Damage 2/5 - 1k projectile (Fast speed)
Speed 5/5
Range 2/5
Health: 600,000
This boss would zoom around the area and pick off any person not paying attention, and would be difficult to hit. But would be killed easily after being frozen.
Weak: Water
Attack: Thunder
Defence: Earth
Spells: Super Projectile - 6k damage.

FINAL BOSS:
Oni, the master of calamity.
Level: 300
Damage 5/5 - 8k melee (Normal speed)
Speed 3/5
Range 4/5
Health: 1,000,000
This beast of a demon is fast, but incredibly strong. He can knock you out with one blow, either from his claws, or from the fire that he spits.
Weak: Neutral
Attack: All elements
Defense: All elements
Spells: Charge - 15k damage. (1 hits most players)
Fire breath - 7k damage.

DROPS

Malacious
Slow attack speed
1-400 neutral damage
1-400 fire damage
+450 health regen
+2000 health
+40% health regen
+20 defense
-20 intelligence
+20% fire damage
-50% water damage
Created by a calamity demon in the depths of hell, with enough power to destroy an army in a single blow.
Untradable Mythic
(spear)

This is only an example of one of the mythic drops from the final boss. :)

Any of your examples will be appreciated :D

CLASS LIMITATIONS
Now, you would probably think that you could use something such as 15 mages and just sweep everything, all stacking together and healing and using meteors? Well no. There will be a limit to every class (Probably around 5 of each) so that 15 mages or 15 mana archers don't wipe out all the bosses.

- Thats it for me, tell me if you don't like anything about this post or anything I should change. Any help is appreciated.

-Seki, aka Ethanol (Sorry if it's a bit messy, had to add a bit in)

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I think this would be a good idea because it would create another use for guilds

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bumped. feel like dis still decent idea

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Imo, this is a great idea, but I think a few things should be tweaked: e.g. awards should be given to everybody equally upon completing the dungeon. No mythics, but awesome legendaries (or even a new tier?). The raids should have their own server (like the nether server) and maybe only open up for a limited time to be filled with players. Btw, the level requirement needs to be really high, so the server is mainly filled by "useful" players to make the raid actually doable (considering the intended extreme difficulty).

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idk why i voted no, sorry, please add an option to change vote i like this

SeaOfPoison, Jun 13, 2017

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Did you change this thread? I feel like you changed this thread.
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idk why i voted no, sorry, please add an option to change vote i like this
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2 - Rather than just having untradeable mythics, have items of the same power level with a different classification, like "Raid Item."
More is coming.

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Sekizen said: ↑

Now before you comment ''This has been suggested before,'' I know that. I am only posting this as I have not seen a suggestion of this in a long time, and think it is an incredible idea. Also, the other posts that were about this lacked detail and I've decided to make one. Also, please do not comment ''All this will do is lag out the server more than it already does.'' I know that it may lag, but Wynncraft survives with everything else going on in it, so this should be fine. (BUT 15 MAGES CAN CLEAR IT SO EASILY OMGOMGOMG. There will be a 5 person limit on each class, so you don't just have 15 mages healing and using meteors)
Now, into the actual post.

RAIDS.
Ever played a MMORPG Which is not wynncraft? Well, most of the time, they have a thing called ''RAIDS.'' These are large scale dungeons which take a large amount of teamwork and persistence to beat. In order to defeat these raids you will need large amounts of people and a lot of spare time. Raids will also get players on who are level 100 and have nothing else to do, and they will be able to collect new items by doing this ''raids'' :)

COOLDOWN
There of course will be a cool down on the raids. My suggestion is that there will be a raid maybe once or twice a week, and the first group there will be the only one allowed inside. This would remove the chance of people running the dungeon over and over again and getting constant mythics. I would also suggest that the group that defeats the dungeon will not be able to participate the next one.

THE BASIC PREMISE
Now, how it works. You gather your group and go to the raid ''dungeon'' entrance. Here is an example I made up:

The Haunted LABYRINTH
Raid dungeon (15 players needed)

To enter the dungeon you will have to pay a large amount of in game currency, LE. I have not decided the figure on the cost for the entrance of 15 players, but it will be a large amount. When you buy the ''raid'' ticket every person in your ''Raid group'' at the area of the raid dungeon will be teleported inside. From this point there will be multiple puzzles, waves of mobs and bosses, all incredibly difficult, that you will have to clear. There will most likely be 4 normal boss battles, each with a number of puzzles and waves in between each other. Now, if you finish a boss, you will be given a choice. Take the loot from the boss (for example, 4 legendary items) or carry on with the raid. Now if you chose to leave, you simply get teleported out, and wont be able to do the raid again.

However, if they chose to stay, the legends they got will be added to the pool, and if they lose (more than half the people die) they will be sent out without anything, and will have to wait for the next raid. Say they continue, they will keep facing the bosses until they have defeated a total of 4 strong bosses, maybe similar Cybel (but will have much more health and attack, as this is supposed to be incredibly difficult) After the 4 bosses their will be a large wave of mobs that you will have to defeat, and then a puzzle which is also difficult. After completing all these tasks, there will be a final boss.

This final boss will be incredibly strong and difficult to kill, with insane health regeneration and dps, being able to 1 shot multiple players at once. If the players overcome this boss they will receive amazing loot, including 1-2 mythics. After the raid ends they will all be sent out and everyone will have to wait a month or two for the next large scale raid dungeon.

LOOT SPLITTING
If this is implemented, I would suggest a method like so.
Chance of winning amazing loot:
Top dps: 33.3%
Top healing: 33.3%
Top damage taken: 33.3%

So basically there will be a random chance between the people who did the most work in the whole dungeon, and will be a completely random pull. Also, by the time that they get to the 5th boss there will be at least one legend for everyone, and one mythic for the lucky fella. This will also help people who have opened 130k chests and killed 100k mobs and got no mythics (feelsbadman) to get good gear and mythics.

MYTHICS = TOO OP?
As suggested by EnderCraft the mythics that are dropped from the final boss or reward, could be UNTRADABLE. Yes, you could not trade them. This way the economy would not be broken by the same op guild doing dungeons and getting mythics, but allowing new builds and weapons. There could be 1 new mythic for each class, but it's up to GM's and everyone else if this actually is implemented.

TEAMWORK
The whole basis of raid dungeons is that people are to work together in order to complete it. Currently, wynncraft is not a great MMORPG. As it lacks communication between players and people working together to do anything. *Apart from say Qira/ToA* Which themselves only take a max of 3 people.
This implementation may also urge people to talk and have leaders and strategists, telling the members of the Raid group what to do throughout the whole raid.
It would add something that wynncraft has been missing for a very long time.

LOCATIONS
I am truly not sure where any of these would be located, but they may appear in random places. For example a raid dungeon called ''Dragon Peak'' Could be placed at where the dragon currently is for the thanos quest. A different Idea I had is the ''Undead Tomb'' which would be located east of almuj in the desert that is behind it. But nothing is set in stone about locations, as it would truly be up to the GMs + Salted etc.

PUZZLES
There of course, will be a few puzzles in-between the battles, including parkour. One of the ideas I thought up was this: There is a wall with 5 buttons, each coordinating to a lamp. There will also be 5 pressure plates, each adjacent to a button and lamp. There will then be one hint on the wall: ''Hidden among the debris, &$%*£ are found.'' There will be 5 hints hidden around the room, for example on top of a nether brick structure. All of these need to be found, and as this requires teamwork, 5 people will have to stand on the pressure plates. They will then have to press the buttons in order, and all must be standing on the pressure plates. (The order is within the hints. I also just made this up, so it's pretty bad)

MOBS
The mobs will be as following, for ''The Haunted LABYRINTH'' the raid dungeon I suggested earlier.

Minotaur's offspring:
Spell: Charge - 2k dam
Health: 9,000
Attack speed: Slow
These creatures will be quick and pesky, and charge around.
Weak: Fire
Attack: Earth
Defence: Thunder

Malicious Mantis:
Spell: Projectile (ghast tear) - 1k dam
Health: 5,000
Attack speed: Fast
These will dart around and attack you from afar.
Weak: Water
Attack: Thunder
Defence: Earth

Calamity demon:
Spell: Uppercut - 3k dam
Health: 15,000
Attack speed: normal
Warning: Very dangerous.
Weak: Earth
Defence: Water
Attack: Thunder

The point of these mobs is not that they are incredibly strong, but that there are lots of them attacking you at once, in hordes.

BOSSES
Here are a few examples of bosses that could be used in the raids.

BOSS 1:
The Dead Minotaur.
Level: 175
Damage 5/5 - 2k melee (normal speed)
Speed 3/5
Range 1/5
Health: 400,000
This boss would do large amounts of damage and charge around the arena, nearly 1 hitting most players, but would die quickly if it was aggro'd onto tanks who could survive it's outrageous damage.
Weak: Fire
Attack: Earth
Defence: Thunder
Spells: Charge - 8k damage.

BOSS 2:
Manti, the insect.
Level: 150
Damage 2/5 - 1k projectile (Fast speed)
Speed 5/5
Range 2/5
Health: 600,000
This boss would zoom around the area and pick off any person not paying attention, and would be difficult to hit. But would be killed easily after being frozen.
Weak: Water
Attack: Thunder
Defence: Earth
Spells: Super Projectile - 6k damage.

FINAL BOSS:
Oni, the master of calamity.
Level: 300
Damage 5/5 - 8k melee (Normal speed)
Speed 3/5
Range 4/5
Health: 1,000,000
This beast of a demon is fast, but incredibly strong. He can knock you out with one blow, either from his claws, or from the fire that he spits.
Weak: Neutral
Attack: All elements
Defense: All elements
Spells: Charge - 15k damage. (1 hits most players)
Fire breath - 7k damage.

DROPS

Malicious
Very Slow attack speed
1-800 neutral damage
1-400 fire damage
+450 health regen
+2000 health
+40% health regen
+20 defense
-20 intelligence
+20% fire damage
-50% water damage
Created by a calamity demon in the depths of hell, with enough power to destroy an army in a single blow.
Untradable Mythic
(spear)

This is only an example of one of the mythic drops from the final boss. :)

Any of your examples will be appreciated :D

CLASS LIMITATIONS
Now, you would probably think that you could use something such as 15 mages and just sweep everything, all stacking together and healing and using meteors? Well no. There will be a limit to every class (Probably around 5 of each) so that 15 mages or 15 mana archers don't wipe out all the bosses.

Thats about it.

-Added a puzzle, ye boy.

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1 - Rather than giving the items only at the end, have each boss with a high chance of dropping its items, but only one, drop them as they die, along with several emeralds.

2 - Loot splitting
This is a good idea, but rather than just 'top amount' use something like % of.

3 - This is a really good idea for a puzzle, but not all keyboard numbers are the same, I don't have a british pound key.

4 - If the minotaur is dead/undead, how does he produce offspring? Enthralled Bovine and Raging Bull sound cool, and it gives another mob name. You can have two cow based mobs.

5 - This place is supposed to be haunted right? It needs a priest; or a praying mantis! It could hold a crucifix and everything.

6 - If you wanna go with the undead theme, you could have the praying mantis spawn an undead "Graying Mantis" when killed, adding more variety.

7 - Since the demon is the real antagonist here, it needs 5 different mobs based on it, one for each element.
Calamitous Demon (Fire)
Catastrophic Demon (Earth)
Disastrous Demon (Lightning)
Demon of Adversity (Water)
Afflicted Demon (Air)

8 - How about Possessed Minotaur? It fits more with the demon theme too.

9 - Please call them "Praying Mantis" and have this be "Pope Mantis" (Pope Francis). (I need to see this happen, Don't ask why I just do).

10 - Have Pope Mantis spawn several Graying Mantises upon death.

11 - Oni is already taken as a boss mob name.

12 - Whoops look at all these suggestions, you can rename it to the Labyrinth of Purgatory now.

Kraetys, Jun 13, 2017

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The entire idea if fine, except for one minor detail that probs does not even matter

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Oni, the master of calamity.
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There's already a boss named Oni

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bump. added some stuff

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How do you expect me to destroy this suggestion if I can't even read it?

#DarkThemeLivesMatter

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changed theme to be alright :)

FRANCISS, Jun 22, 2017

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RAID BATTLES ARE IN POKEMON GO, THIS WAS A WASTE OF BRAINCELLS WHEN I READ IT.

BusyEXE, Jun 23, 2017

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