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Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Witcher, Dec 3, 2016.

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Do you agree?

  1. yes

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  2. no, I prefer using broken builds and have fun while ruining other peoples experience.

    18 vote(s)
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  1. Thom_Com

    Thom_Com A Yoshi HERO

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    imo assassin is fine atm, with one of my builds I can do 12k multihits and 19k smokebombs while still having a ton of mana steal, over 10k hp and about 90 def, without using any mythics, not really underpowered (I think).
     
  2. SmileyAlec

    SmileyAlec Olympic Gaming CHAMPION

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    I dont get this

    because a higher lvl is supposed to kill lower lvls easily...
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    I can one shot an earth archer easily

    without even using weathered
     
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  3. BuffAirSpear

    BuffAirSpear Avos Air Assassin HERO

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    you usually dont. but technically you can ^^ tbh i would LOL if i can cast a mutli hit (also in pve) for 3mana ofc i would go through the trouble of holding right click pressed for a bit before i cast it XD also you dont have to technically use vanish to get close. you can just also vanish right infront of him and then cast the multi hit for 3mana. then you add a little smokebomb to that and combine that with spin attack which is easily possible thanks to your multi hit only costing 3mana and most builds are dead (if you have a decent build XD)
     
  4. UltimateShitLord

    UltimateShitLord Mhm CHAMPION

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    I think the way you're going about balancing mage is in the completely wrong direction of what some people really think is op about mage (we need intelliegence enabled, not just for mage, but all water builds need it more!)
     
  5. Relja_J_3

    Relja_J_3 Salty Sunflower

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    I think that there's an Overall dilamma with pvp in wynncraft.

    If People are allowed to use their modified kits there will always be overpowered and broken strategies, aswell as high Level Players ruling the Arenas.
    The solution? Make predetermined kits for pvp which are all balanced. But that then opens a new Problem:
    It is completely against the fun of getting better gear and customizing your build to match your favourite playstyle. After all, that's one of the most fun parts of MMORPG's.
    But if you let Players use their favourite builds, some Players will find builds and exploits which make the way more powerfull, leading back to the first Problem.

    Overall, I just don't think Wynncraft, or any MMORPG's for that matter, work that well with PvP since It'll either devolve into a Minigame like on any other minecraft Server, completely deoid of the fun of the core experience, or it will be so unbalanced, especially between classes (and let's not even try to compare Players on differnt Levels), that it
    becomes a pit of Frustration and the same dumb strategies being used again and again.

    tl:dr: MMORPGs don't Combine well with pvp
     
  6. Golfbawl

    Golfbawl [] CHAMPION

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    You're basically saying to bring back balanced nether in the biggest wall text ever.
     
  7. chaostitan

    chaostitan Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    Problem is the ct doesn't give a shit about pvp, I understand it's not a big part of Wynn but atleast TRY to improve it.
     
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  8. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    It is true that MMORPGs allow higher level players to be stronger than lower level players, that is kinda the point of leveling up.
    However they do not put high levels and low levels in the same match, because then the PvP leaderboards would be filled with people who are only there because they spam killed 5000 lower levels.
    Every MMORPG I have played has separated PvP between level ranges, generally every 10 levels.
    Except this one.
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    What he's suggesting is separating level ranges.
     
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  9. SmileyAlec

    SmileyAlec Olympic Gaming CHAMPION

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    what does he even mean by that
     
  10. Kraetys

    Kraetys Hater of Catipalism - Certified Nyanarchist HERO

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    Probably multiple nethers, for different level ranges.
     
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  11. ElegantDeath

    ElegantDeath Who needs a title anyways HERO

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    I kind of support it but the mage change is only necessary for pvp and in pve mage is strong enough
    with assassin raw spell dmg can make multihit broken but it does need a bit of a buff
    but tbh the vanish burning changes should be all over but on spin and not vanish
    but the largest thing wrong with this suggestion is the overly biased poll that when someone wants to vote no because some of these things are broken forces them to vote an option that makes it seem like they like the terrible brokenness of the nether
     
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  12. captainarcani

    captainarcani That guy that creates crazy WynnCraft theories

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    Dude every mage is an ice snake mage
     
  13. Happy New Year

    Happy New Year Please bring the shoutbox back VIP+

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    So yea, playing pvp is currently totally impossible since many people use totally broken builds that simply ruin the game. yes

    for example the grandmother archers:
    they do insane damage but are the same time tanks that doenst fit to archer, they are intended to have the least defense. they r slow

    now to poison: are you kidding me? poison build mage is unkillable, poison archer shoots you before you get close. if they get poisoned they simply heal themselves, meanwhile they spam icesnakes to poison everyone so they die. And there is no build I know that can evade poison. poison is just broken, hopefully they will fix it soon

    Assasin: Assasin is the weakest class of all, surely the defense is bad but intended that way, but the damage! every class deals more damage then assasin. no
    Assasins vanish isn't also working properly to be used in pvp. Mana runs out before you get close and you cannot use a spell. true, but ik how to save my mana so watever
    And now lvl differences: Where is the fairness? a lvl 90 mage can kill lvl 40 people over and over again, same goes to archer and warrior! i understand the lvl diference but what does archer n warrior have to do with this

    Now what can be changed:
    first of: Change nethers pvp to a team vs team game. Balancing the amount of high lvl player and the one of lower ones. And to make the nether fuller, add rewards! These could be blood poitions which could be traded in the rpg world for rewards! yeah imagine a team of alka warriors @TinaChan

    now to the poison problem:
    poison must be evadable! I suggest doing it with intelligence, since most builds include intelligence and it makes sence. every percent in intelligence shall lower the poison damage. what

    Assasin fix:
    multihit damage must be increased a lot! the third spell is intended to be the damage spell and not the forth one! no
    and first spell casted while vanished should always be casted without mana! no
    vanish shall stop the burning effect too no

    mage:
    lowder the selfheal effect drasticly and add mana regen 1/4 for 10 seconds. that way mage still buffes but becomes weaker to damage over time builds no, a cooldown between heals would be much better
     
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  14. captainarcani

    captainarcani That guy that creates crazy WynnCraft theories

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    When will you stop changing your profile picture @Skyreach
     
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    Happy New Year Please bring the shoutbox back VIP+

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    never
     
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  16. captainarcani

    captainarcani That guy that creates crazy WynnCraft theories

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    Fine xD
     
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  17. Chun_

    Chun_ Any broken builds founder,nerfed by Salted VIP+

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    Why I'm the specific
     
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  18. Witcher

    Witcher the crappy class suggestions guy

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    Thank you so much for your Reply, not many People think everything through!
    Most Things you are right with, for example the poison Thing, I just have no idea how to make it balanced.
    But concerning assasin: smoke bomb shouldn't deal more damage then multihit. smokebomb does like 600% damage while multihit only 250%
     
  19. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

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    I agree with what you're saying, but I think that the poll is biased. It would be good if you could change that.
     
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  20. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Why did you switch to like oldish speech half way through that?

    Also, I REALLY like the blood potion idea
     
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