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Nice Config, Mind Making It Actually Work Though?

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Heika, Mar 12, 2016.

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  1. Esfores

    Esfores In and Out of Existence

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    As much as I'd love for that to be the case, people will still argue against facts. I'll agree that it would've made for a stronger argument, however. Definitely won't avoid all the "ur dum im rite" posts but it'll at least push some of them away
     
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    Dodo Meme Machine VIP+

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    This is getting slightly out of hand. If this continues, the thread will be closed.
     
  3. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Haha. You don't play minecraft, or Wynncraft much do you? The one person who codes is called Jumla, look him up. And they don't have ANYONE doing stories as far as I can tell. They're a bit busy trying to balance banning people, fixing bugs, replying to forum posts (pretty sure at least SOMEONE is going to post on this), and making new content. Like I said, if you don't like it, don't play it. There are a million servers, and I'm sure something like dungeonrealms would fit your ideals. Remember, it's a free to play server (besides the cost of minecraft) they're sustained by donations. Oh look, dodo posted. Told ya
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  4. Thedarklordyo

    Thedarklordyo i eat egg VIP

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    Oh, my bad then. Continue on.
     
  5. Heika

    Heika Non VIP+

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    I am providing numbers, just not based off of in game weapons themselves. This is because nearly every weapon in game has highly different elemental and usage enchantments on them, and thus make it difficult to discern damages properly. Instead, I am providing the damage output that every single spell does listed as their percentages in an attempt to show that if each base weapon did 1 damage, one of them would do so minutely little damage compared to the others that it would be useless as a move itself
     
  6. Artikae

    Artikae Proud Leader of The Document VIP+

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    If you look at weapon numbers, Mage looks like the weakest class. That's obviously not true. This is also part of the reason Mage's spells have such a high damage percentage.
     
  7. Dar-krusos

    Dar-krusos We never change do we; no, no, no~ VIP

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    It's just rhetoric psychology, my friends. People are inclined to believe numbers because "numeracy is a magical language associated with maths, and therefore it's logical and correct."
     
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  8. Artikae

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    The thing is, each class has incredibly different weapons. Mage weapons do much less damage than assassin weapons so the spells had to be adjusted to balance things. It's much easier to adjust the spells than hundreds of weapons.
     
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  9. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Well, I'll give you this, lasagna. This is the first thread I've seen that reached 4 pages of replies so fast. Also the first to have a threatened shutdown
     
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  10. Esfores

    Esfores In and Out of Existence

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    Well no, I think it's more that a number is literally a fact and there is no possible way to refute it
     
  11. Heika

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    I do play both avidly. I know who codes, and I'm confused as to what you're trying to point out. They have a large team of staff to deal with balancing these things, as it stands, they should have the means to edit the config damages extremely easily without any form of inconvenience. Also, the 'if you dont like it leave' thing is really annoying. I do like the server, which is why I'm trying to push ways to make it fair for everyone to enjoy. If my idea is wrong, then criticism regarding it should be provided, and I will edit the post to match that. This is meant to balance the server, not push my agenda of how things should work
     
  12. Pretzule

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    A large team of staff may be true. But currently we only have Jumla working on the code, as Crunkle quit and Red is the network man.
     
  13. Artikae

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    The issue is that your numbers are skewed by weapon differences. Mage is not nearly as OP as it looks because they have inherently weak weapons.
     
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  14. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    #blamejumla. And most staff members are builders. And people already enjoy the server, just because YOU don't doesn't mean others don't. Also, I called you Lasagna cuz I forgot your name.
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  15. Thedarklordyo

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    Hmm, I forgot about elements. But I think you could do more then just spell damage. Perhaps just grab an Assassin and some other class, use the store bought weapons, attack an enemy and record the damage, ? As in, the actual damage dealt to the enemy. I haven't been on wynncraft in a while, but if I recall correctly, the game shows you how much damage you do. I'm sure you can look at 400% and say "Wow that's better than an assassin", but if you look at assassin doing 100 damage with a spell vs a mage doing 500 damage with a spell, you can get people to think. Although skillpoints maybe a problem if you have str or dex, I'm sure you can just you find a way to remove that from the calculation.
     
  16. Heika

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    Again, keep in mind that the spell does every elemental damage depending on the weapon used, and buffs again 30% earth and fire damage when used. This totals to 460% damage depending on the weapon used without even adding in that weapons have more elemental damage added on to them. The mage weapons do not do nearly a low enough damage to make that kind of damage output fair, keeping also in mind that currently it can heal a large amount of damage dealt to it, slow down, and teleport with damage at fairly long range with little amounts of hunger used comparitively
     
  17. Mistrise Mystic

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    You both posted pretty much the same thing at the same time, yet you both have opposing opinions... Dayum
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  18. Heika

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    Again, when it comes to coding things like a spell or a passive thing etc., It takes an extremely small amount of time to do so. The issue provided here is that you have this one person having to try to fix all kinds of possible errors for an expansion that does not seem like it was yet ready to be released. Have you attempted trying to get more Dev's on your team? I'm not one to put the point out but Wynncraft is a very large community, surely it would be possible to reach out to the players to find more people to help work on this?
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    I'll try to keep up with everyones posts, I'm going to take a bit of a break now so as to save my head from going in overdrive. I'd really prefer if you guys could instead offer points that could be added or changed to the thread so it can become a general 'what needs to be fixed' thing. I started it with what I think and am merely looking for input on that, and additions to be put in it so as to balance the server properly and as a collaborative effort. I will defend what I think is right, and change what I see is wrong.

    Thanks.
     
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  19. Thedarklordyo

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    This sounds like something that you should edit into the thread
     
  20. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    No. We do NOT want another Marr. Also, Jumla's doing the classes, the glitches, and the quests
     
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