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World Mythic Buffs/nerfs + Mythic Suggestions

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Kraby, Nov 4, 2016.

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  1. Pearhair

    Pearhair If life gives you lemons, tell it to not be cliche VIP

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    Gaia, a level 97 mythic earth wand does 465-610 base damage with slow attack speed making 698.75 DPS

    Fatal, a level 99 mythic thunder wand does 1-500 superfast base damage, making 1002 DPS

    Now, let's find weapons that can compare in DPS...

    Lv 100 Diaminar (a freakin unique): 639.1

    Lv 92 Heartache (also a unique): 695.5

    Lv 89 Alazarin (defensive dagger): 624

    Lv 100 The bloody Infused Hive Dagger: 800

    Lv 96 Cataclysm (the damage-based mythic): 1960

    Lv 100 The freakin Hive Infused Bow: 1000

    Lv 100 Hive Spear (The others are here, so yeh): 650

    Lv 100 Hive Wand (apparently one of the best wands too): 520

    The list goes on and on...

    tbh Mage is kinda OP, but nerfing it's damage further will not help. Mage's damage is in the right spot right now
     
  2. Jared2183

    Jared2183 Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    So....buff assassin?
    :P
    Jk
    So what about the ranges
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    O wait hive bow does 1000 dps?
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    This is, mage meteor multiplier is higher than other multipliers, leading to more damage via meteor
     
  3. MylifeIsSad

    MylifeIsSad Well-Known Adventurer

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    Rumble have more damage output then pure (the ocean duengeon wand).
     
  4. hexapod

    hexapod Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    What are you using to calculate that dps? Unless all of those other wands do more than 10-12k meteors... that's wrong. Fatal is meh, it can be easily tanked; but gaia is too op.
     
  5. Pearhair

    Pearhair If life gives you lemons, tell it to not be cliche VIP

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    I take the average damage ((min damage+max damage)/2) and multiply that by the attacks per second. This only counts for the weapon without any IDs, as well as a perfectly average damage roll and no powders. Fatal can go up to 2004 DPS, but it can also become merely 4 DPS. Gaia's highest roll is 793 DPS. People get OP meteors with Gaia because they use Earth Damage % and very high spell damage %, as well as use powders and the STR stat.

    If you use 793*2.5*x*y*1.8=10,000 and graph it, you can find a curve of different spell damage% and earth damage % multipliers.
    In the middle of the curve, 10k meteors seem to be doable with around 66% in spell damage and earth damage (ignoring the elemental damage boost from SP), which is pretty achievable.

    I bet you're thinking that Gaia is OP for this damage output, but let's compare this with other stuff (again lol)...

    Hive-Infused Bow: Also with 100+ STR and a max roll, this thing only needs around 40% in each category to deal 10k bombs. (fully powdered, but I ignored the raw damage.)
    Heartache: Around 45% in each category (with 100+ STR and max roll) to deal 10k uppercuts. (water damage)

    Now, here's an actual damage weapon: Cataclysm

    With an average roll and an average of 70% critical hits, Cataclysm's spins need 20% in spell damage and thunder damage (which cata gives half of already) to repetitively deal 10k spins.
     
  6. hexapod

    hexapod Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    No idea how to calculate the damage, that is probably right. But 100 strength with heartache? And the hive bow? and max rolls + max dmg. When I use my tank with full on elemental defense, fatals don't do much and same with fully powdered heartaches + hive bows.
     
  7. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

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    A Rumble only deals the damage of a 260% spell Pure.
     
  8. MylifeIsSad

    MylifeIsSad Well-Known Adventurer

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    Yea consider its a rare and pure is not always perfect .
     
  9. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

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    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand why would someone even use a Pure under 300% spell because they aren't that expensive, and rares aren't meant to be bad. Most dungeon items just seem to be a bit OP too. Also remember that Pure has multiple other great stats.
     
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