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Lets Fix Defense. [now In Game.]

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by JaydonTheWarrior, Nov 20, 2018.

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What suggestions do you support.

  1. All of them

    89.6%
  2. Just section 1

    1.5%
  3. Just section 2

    3.0%
  4. Both sections 1 and 2

    2.2%
  5. None of them

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  1. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    You voted for just suggestion 2.
    I was wondering why.
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    @Epicness937 @Cooking Main

    I was wondering why the support for only suggestion one.
    Please if you could give a reason, and possibly feedback.

    If you can't think of a reason, please consider changing your vote.

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    By the way, my issue with all of this is that I haven't heard even a single downside to any of the suggestions here. In fact, the only form of reason for voting negatively anyone has offered is "You sound full of yourself."
     
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  2. Epicness937

    Epicness937 Thesead water god. HERO

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    Because I can't seem to think logically enough to realize it removes tier effects on tanks rather than changing how high speed weps work in pve...I was reading it way to late

    however I'm not a fan of 3 because I personally think elemental defense works better as a stand alone stat and agility should be nerfed rather than non defense sp focused "rainbow tanks" not exist. assuming I'm understanding correctly
     
  3. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    Tier affects on tanks? what?
    I'm confused as to what you mean

    Do you mean it affects how tier attack speed affects element defense?
    Because no, it does not affect tier attack at all.

    Here look, give me two builds.
    I will tell you what one does to the other ok?
     
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  4. Epicness937

    Epicness937 Thesead water god. HERO

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    No i messed up my own understanding for the second one. I get what your saying and realise it's good. I thought it was a totally different thing. However regardless I'm sorta curious on this system cause I an really slow to follow it...
     
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  5. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    I put the formulas in the suggestion, but if you want to give me two builds I will tell you the max and min damage they can do to one and another.
     
  6. Panyadas

    Panyadas noah VIP+

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    Hey man, great post?
     
  7. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    Great post with a question mark I see. XD
     
  8. H0Y

    H0Y H0Y HERO

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    A reply with an XD i see.
     
  9. Panyadas

    Panyadas noah VIP+

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    I.... Ummmm.... er...... It was a great post! Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
     
  10. Mettymagic

    Mettymagic she/her HERO

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    make tanking great again, fellas
     
  11. Cladiator1321

    Cladiator1321 Well-Known Adventurer

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    Good idea guys
     
  12. 3XTWISTEDTITAN

    3XTWISTEDTITAN The Traveler

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    I can definitely say this is not the longest I have ever seen. Not even close.
     
  13. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    Actually makes most froms of tanking do less.

    Ok cool? Sorry?
     
  14. CanadianMacaroni

    CanadianMacaroni Professional Canadian HERO

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    10/10 would fix defense again
     
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    3XTWISTEDTITAN The Traveler

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    Nah it's fine. I fully support this.
     
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  16. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    Can't tell if this is sarcasm, but thank you if not?
     
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  17. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    Bump! My edits were added ;) Happy reading!
     
  18. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Per motoki, elemental defense is calculated after ID/sp boosts, so it wouldn't really have an undue effect on Pure.
     
  19. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    What do you mean?
     
  20. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    You take Pure's damage, apply the +500% spell damage, armor damage boost IDs, skill points boost (Str/Dex and also elemental affinity boosts), and then subtract the elemental defense (and after that apply attack speed multiplier, which I actually like that mechanic because it allows for things like Quinque's weakness absue gimmick).
     
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