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World Interesting Day-Night Cycle (and Weather)

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Spaghetti Man, May 9, 2025.

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  1. Spaghetti Man

    Spaghetti Man The Spaghetti Man CHAMPION

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    So as I was messing around with shaders and mods (which I made sure were legal), just to vibe up the atmosphere of Wynncraft and at some point I came to the realization that Wynncraft doesn't have any weather, nor does the day-night cycle affect anything at all; so in following the trend of bumping up Wynncraft to a more modern standard, I think these things should be considered.

    Day-Night Cycle:

    The simplest way to make an impactful day-night cycle is to make certain enemies spawn at certain times of the day, or to make them spawn far more during those times. New mobs could even be made for this purpose, or even some current ones. We already have Werewolves as a mob and Time Valley has Dawn Bloom, Day Bloom, and Dusk Bloom, so it would be cool for these to spawn at different times.
    We do actually have a little bit of this with fireflies only spawning at night, but it could be expanded on so much. Perhaps even the world itself could change at night; imagine lights turning on in cities at night, city guards moving away and despawning and being replaced to simulate switching shifts, and house windows closing.
    I'm of the opinion that city citizen mobs should be completely reworked to have actual AI and do things but that could be its own entire suggestion, one for another time.

    Another thing I would definitely love to see- or, uh... hear is music tracks getting their own night version, even if this were limited only to the major towns and cities. Songs in Wynncraft are always fast and upbeat with very few exceptions, so it would be insanely cool for each city (and maybe even surface areas like the Emerald Trail and such) to have their own more calm and peaceful versions, even having different instruments.
    Final Fantasy XIV is a game that does this perfectly, and I would particularly use Idyllshire's day and night themes as an example.

    Weather:

    Rain, thunder, and snow could be utilized just for aesthetics or have gameplay features. Now, ordinarily I would to go hard and suggest that Wynncraft go absolutely insane with weather far beyond vanilla and add special weather conditions for certain biomes such as the desert getting sandstorms, the Molten Heights getting ash storms, and Time Valley getting temporal fractures, but instead I'll just keep it to the basic 3 and save that idea for another time.
    • Rain could increase Water damage and lower aggro range of mobs in the area
    • Thunderstorms could increase Water and Thunder damage and sometimes strike enemies in the area
    • Snow could increase Water and Air damage and slightly slow mobs in the area
    These wouldn't affect meta or anything because they would only be in general areas rather than activities.

    Conclusion:

    Immersion is very awesome to have in a video game and having gameplay-affecting day-night cycles and weather would go a great distance to build atmosphere in Wynncraft.
    What do you guys think?
     
  2. Tzelofachad

    Tzelofachad Owner of the Rift, manager of the Uz hotel HERO

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    No. Remember that quest that made you wait for night? It was awful.
    for The second thing, there are trinket that change weather and time of day…yeah
     
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    Deusphage gruesome grue Modeler CHAMPION Builder

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    There's already stuff that uses the time of day (like fireflies or some of the robots in Corkus) but it's not a lot.
     
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  4. TheLMiffy1111

    TheLMiffy1111 Previous Leader Of A Revived Wynn Community CHAMPION

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    why is Weather
    anyways yea some more immersion'd be nice
     
  5. Spaghetti Man

    Spaghetti Man The Spaghetti Man CHAMPION

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    This wouldn't do anything like that. There shouldn't be any quests that force you to wait.
    It would be more based on immersion. Realistically the most basic form of this could just make more zombies and other hostile mobs spawn at night, but I'd want to lean in the more immersive side of it. Aside from aforementioned city-related stuff, someone on the discord version of this thread mentioned the idea of the eyeball forest closing their eyes at night, and immersive stuff like that is the main idea of this suggestion: to make the world more dynamic and atmospheric.
     
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    Deusphage gruesome grue Modeler CHAMPION Builder

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    not possible
     
  7. Elytry

    Elytry The lemon life gave you (don't make me lemonade!) VIP

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    and I believe Temple of Light SD still needs day.

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    Cloak of Darkness, Gleaming Sunstone, and The Citadel Sunrise Thingy all affect times of day and would disrupt the cycle. (I'm not sure if the features would work, but being able to control elements of gameplay using those trinkets feels weird.)
     
  8. Spaghetti Man

    Spaghetti Man The Spaghetti Man CHAMPION

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    These vanity trinkets are all purely cosmetic for you; the day-night cycle is still active and only you can see the effects of your own vanity trinket, and back when Soul Points existed the trinkets didn't affect their regeneration. It's the same as setting the time in your housing.
     
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    Personally I like the idea of the eyes' pupils dilating (or turning into a bigger block) at night even if it's not currently possible
     
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    well obviously only you can see it
    so the night music would come on at night even if it looked like day?
     
  11. Spaghetti Man

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    Yes, though perhaps a nice feature would be for it to always play the respective versions based on the trinket, like how the jukebox works
     
  12. TheLMiffy1111

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    i think the reason why eyeball trees can't have time-based changes is because they are woodcutting profession nodes, which use a constant pool of structures to randomize from, and it's not worth it to change this system just for eyeball trees
     
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  13. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin. HERO

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    I don't actually see why this wouldn't be.
     
  14. Tzelofachad

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    maybe lag to change the block?
     
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    deusphage you can't just say "not possible"
     
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    That's interesting about changing mob spawning according to day night cycle and lighting a city at night
    But when it comes to weather I guess it will just create more performance issues to both client and the server but tbh they will look cool :)
     
  17. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff paladin. HERO

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    The thing is, I actually know quite a bit about the internals of a server like this, and have a decent idea of how I would do it.
     
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    Waaah but I'm lazy



    Prof nodes can only have 2 states, unharvested and harvested. It would require the system to be changed for a minor feature that might not even look that good
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    In the case of ores, it's the armor stands being there or not. In the case of the crop, it's the crop block or air. In the case of trees, it's the tree or the stump.
    I've tried playing around with nodes having multiple stages (like being able to harvest multiple times from one node before it's gone) and it just isn't feasible to add more versions with how they current work
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    It's like trying to add an extra state to a light switch. There's currently only ON and OFF, with neither a position for the lever to fit into for another option, or the ability for the bulb to do anything but be glowing or off.
     
  19. Spaghetti Man

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    Off topic but within the context of adding more states and making professions not terrible (which I assume was the reason you tried playing around with it), "it isn't feasible with how they currently work" is not a good reason for them to stay the same, in fact it's the exact reason they need to be changed. The whole "2 states" thing for gathering (and professions in general) seems to be mainly inspired by Runescape, but Runescape is also an intentionally outdated game with nostalgic charm; the biggest attempt Jagex ever made to modernize their game was met with such severe backlash that it Thanos-snapped half the playerbase and most of them never came back. To Runescape, outdated systems is the point of the game, but Wynncraft gathering does not have that nostalgic charm, it's just simply outdated game design and needs to be reworked.
     
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    Hear me out. Whenever you gather a node at max level in a territory your guild owns and you have bombs and all buffs active, there is a 1% chance that it destroys the node forever, server sided. I want to destroy Nivea woods