World High Level Quests, In Low Level Areas. [58 Votes, 93.1% Support]

is it 95% support tho?

 

once you count actual votes it is.

 

no it actually is 86,7%

46/53 * 100 = 0,8679 * 100 = 86,79

 

It's actually about 95.8 There aren't even 53 votes, i can only see 48.

 

uhhh

 

Well if you count those "votes" thn yeah there are 53. But I'm counting only the valid ones.

It's like when voting for president candidate, sure you can put extra position like "Mickey Mouse", but they're not going to get counted.

 

there are only 2 options and both are legitimate options so you need to count all the votes

 

yeah there are legitimate options, so I counted legitimate votes

 

ETERNAL BUMP

 

What isn't legitimate about the 53 votes though?? I don't get how there could be invalid votes when there's only 2 legitimate options to vote on and 53 have already voted on those two legitimate options

 

What are you talking about? Only 5 votes are invalid.

There are indeed two legitimate options, and I counted the legitimate votes.

There are invalid votes, becouse if someone doesn't follow the simple conditions I laid out, and state why they think this suggestion shouldn't be added, if they don't bother to give me a reason, then I only see fit for me to disregard their votes. For if they do not need a reason to vote no, then I do not need a reason to not count their votes.

 

They are valid votes, they should be. Just because they didn't give their reason doesn't mean they don't have the right to agree of disagree. They voted to disagree on your suggestion, many people do this in fact. Maybe their readon has already been presented or maybe they just don't feel like having this added although it is a good suggestion, leading them not to reply.

Just because they didn't talk doesn't mean they lost their right to vote or they have invalid votes. Votes are normally asked "do you do this" without a why question (if it did, it would have been a survey)

 

YOU ARE ALL SUPER DUMB DUMBS

Here ill fix this suggestion. You need to add low level quests in high level areas. That way they will wonder what the purpose is. REVERSE NOSTALGIA

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This is literally lieing. There are two votes COUNT THEM. Just because someone didnt comment does not give you the right to lie about your stats.

 

Okay, sorry for the late response.

First, I would like to say that i'm not against the idea of putting high-level quests in low-level areas, it's just that i would prefer if they were special quests, and i would like if they weren't inside towns Something like:

Spoiler

Putting a level 30-35 quest here.

Near Coastal Trail.

I know that putting them in such a place will be harder for low-level players to encounter them but even then, low-level players have a lot of things to get excited over so there is no need to put a high level-quest in low-level area. Besides that, it's also confusing when you put a high-level quest on low-level areas, it's also annoying for some players to go from a province to another when doing quests even though there are scrolls.

As for why did a say to make them special quests it's because of how small space there is for quests to be added. With only doing quests alone you can level up without grinding, there is the fact that you gain XP from world discoveries too. So, adding any more quests will be over the top.
Of course, there might be some space for more quests to be added, but i would prefer if those spaces were used to make normal quests.

Tbh the reason i would like high-level quests near low-level areas is because of the feeling of going back to the old place and affecting them with your new power.
If i would say something about how those quests should be done it will be doing things in some places in low-level areas that you normally don't go to, and get a special reward. I would like the dialogue for some NPCs to change after doing the quest.

I was thinking of typing a whole bunch of text, and i did it but... it's better to make it short for easy understanding.

I agree on some aspects but there are still some aspects that i don't agree with sooo i choose "I think otherwise".

 

this argument was very unnecessary. let quests go in low level areas if the content team chooses to put them there, what is the point of making specific quests to dump in low level areas. there's already some high level quests in places like Selchar where you enter Corkus, and that wasn't because the content team chose to put them there, that's because they ended up there. eventually after some updates there will not be places for new quests and they'll have to put them in lower level areas so they're not too cramped in some level 90-100 area

also, there's 62 votes and 85.5% support, should probably get to changing that soon

 

did you voted no, becouse I don't want to count votes? I mean one thing is me not counting votes, becouse it doesn't actually matter. These polls don't have to do anything with an actual suggestion anyway., I can literally make it about anyything, it's just so I can get people's OPINIONS. i am counting yes votes becouse I know why they like it. Heck, some people even commented why they liked it. But when people choose "no" option nd don't actually bother to explain themeselves then I can't GAIN anything out of it. To be honest I don't really give a shit if you dislike this suggestion, as long as you state a reason why I am fine with, but if I get no feedback then I can't do any editorial work to make suggestion better. You know that disliking a product, but don't actually bother to state why harms that product, people lose money over you not bothering to state what's wrong with their product. But to bring the point back to my comparison, I am just trying to get feedback. You got triggered that I'm not counting votes and disliked my suggestion not becouse it's bad, but becouse you don't like me, or at least that's what I'm seeing here. I just wanted feedback.

 

Umm... if you talking about me then:
I'm kinda sure that The Envoy Part 1 quest is the only quest that is in low-level area, but even then you only start the quest on selchar then you don't have anything else to do in the low-level area. The main reason the NPC is in selchar is that it's easier to introduce Corkus because the ship is literally in selchar.
There isn't a lot of space to add quests in the first place, the problem isn't the space of the area the problem is the space for the level, they can't just put 3-4 quests for one level (there is some special cases like level 74).
Also, if they have space for high-level quests i would rather them putting it in high-level areas for better quality overall.
I said to make a new type of quests for the sole reason of "not enough space for quests" just like miniquests or even worldevent.

 

"will you give me 100$ breathe if yes, do a triple backflip if no"

Anyway on to your suggestion.
I like the idea of going back to a place you've already been to for a good reason. Gives some nostalgia and a way to see 'how far you've come' since last being there.

But the quest shouldn't begin in the area itself, because of reasons already stated above: it's confusing for newer players and possibly demotivating if they see they need 60 more levels just to do this quest (which, iirc, is why the guy who first takes you to Corkus doesn't point out any levels, just tells you to come back later).

However, there's still a very good way of making players return to previous areas: by making them gather items only found around lower levels, like in Temple of the Legends, or opening a new spot in previous area, like in Reincarnation. That spot would, ofcourse, be mostly hidden or insignificant-looking as to not make new players feel like they're missing out on something miles away. I really hope there's gonna be Gavel-based quest where you need to do things everywhere around Gavel. Could be a neat idea for a rework of The Realm of Light: purifying the realm by making people all over Gavel happy or safe again.

 

no, i didn't vote no for that. I voted no because I thought high level quests would be implemented on low level areas not for excitement of new players but rather for local lore development.

they voted no because they didn't like it. it is still an opinion they have and they expressed on your thread. You can't just rip it out as if it's mold on bread although it's still edible. You value explanatory opinions, I see that, but the poll is not about explaining your opinion, the comments are. And the poll is for saying yes and no.

I feel like this is going too far. I just advise you to count every legitimate vote you have because they're still votes and they're still opinions. If you insist on throwing people's votes out, I can't do anything about it then.

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All the low-level area quests, some of which are The Envoy, Reincarnation, Wynnexcavation Site D (doesn't start in a low-level area but it still brings you to one), ToL (similar scenario with WynnexD) all add to the lore that their areas are in.

The Envoy for example first introduces Corkus, adding a whole new lore focus, and also is the third province that got in the game.
Reincarnation, although being a boss fight of Bob's reincarnation (unless it was changed), improves a bit of lore to Bob, as he talks while you go through his animal lair, leading to his fighting room.
Wynn Excavation D, adds a whole bunch of lore, introduces the Eye for the first time in the game, shows their negative affiliations with the kings of the City of Troms and Fort Ragni, and so on.
ToL doesn't improve a lot, but it still adds to small areas like the Pigmen Ravines and the Roots of Corruption with NPCs there.

 

or like "I understand why you would agree with me but, I won't know why you don't like my suggestion if you say no". Not conuting votes was uinicative to get people to voice their opinions, for validating their votes. And you know what? It worked! Now was that so hard?

Ah! See here's my problem with quests like ToL. You must remember or at least heard of how tidieous the old quest was, I'm not saying the new is as bad, I'm not exactly keen on having to travel around the world and having to keep quests items like climbing helmet.

anyway. Thank you for your feedback, I do understand that people might find it unfillfilling to find quests that can't be done yet, I did to feel that way about reincarnation at first, but it was an interesting concept to tease the player at the end of a quest; though that is just my personal opinion.