World Epic Levels - Levels Past 105 (v1.3.4 - 1.19 Update And New Stuff) Updated 5/25/2020

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I like this +1 support.

 

I think its better to add level over 100 but like 120,130,140... It will fit better with the content and with a big update like dern/fruma it'll be awesome

 

Yes, however that would cause all current high-level items to become essentially worthless since they’re lowere level now, including mythics. And how would people who reached level 101 be compensated?

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And how would it fit better?

 

It would fit better because more levels add the possibility of adding more items/armors and MAYBE spells.
Dungeons can be added to and the level required for the quest is alomst 100 today so it would be difficult to add a lot of quest. And, the players builds will ot become useless but they can be improved if there are lots of new armors.And finally, epic perks are useless because the same effects but in better are possible with player/class builds (like walk speed build) and if you add bonus mana regen (by your perk) to a mana regen mage build it will be too broken.

For me your system is bad.

 

No.

I don't know how to explain it to you but it just won't fit pretty well and what you want is more content from what i see not endgame content.

I have an idea and it is about making leveling harder by making monsters quests dungeons give you less XP and that will make it more possible to add other places for quests in the same level and monsters instead of making another whole level cap from level 1-50 after you get to level 100.

And don't worry about level 101 why? in the past it was much harder to level up to 75 (max level in the past) probably most of them who get to level 101 now days used CSST even i will use it to get there (100-101 not 74-101).

Note: I spend like 20 minute thinking of what to say and 10-15 minute of reading comments and the suggestion ( just saying :) ).

 

Wouldn't this ruin the leaderboards, since those with the most 101's would be forever ahead?

 

True, hadn’t thought of that. Maybe getting 101 will then be nescessary to get epic levels?

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Of course everything is possible with builds, this is meant to go alongside them. Instead of the entire endgame being focused around what items and build you use, you can further improve your builds with the epic perks, which can add a whole new layer of depth to builds. New quests can still be added, so can dungeons and everything else. They’ll just be level 100 and not level 110 or something. Constantly increasing the level cap is just avoiding the underlying issue that when you reach the max level, there isn’t much to do. This is meant to actually address that problem instead of just delaying it a bit more again.

Sorry, I don’t quite understand what you’re saying. Do you mean that there won’t be more actual content? If so, don’t worry. There would obviously be dungeons, quests, whatever else added for level 100, except they would reward you differently and will be much more complicated than current quests. And of course CSST would have to be nerfed for this to work.

 

First, I will ask some question and i want you to answer me (Please).
1-What do you want? do you want endgame content or regular content? (They are different)
2-What is the difference between adding level from 100-150 and adding a completely different level from 1-50 (Epic Level)?
3-Will be there something like quests, items, dungeons, and places?

It is the same as making it leveling up 101-151 the difference is those level will be much OP than normal leveling up with ability, perks, and four skill points.

You see you can't just add 50 level just because it will be there more places for content (Or you can) and even when you add it it will be a disaster.

First, the hole between the players level will be larger.
Second, mythic will be useless for the higher levels.
Third, you will be more OP and that is no good.
Fourth, making level harder to level up is better than making another 50 level.

My idea: make new places for the same level (almost the same level) and make it harder to level up so that you can take your time to explore the other places at the same level (almost same level again) this will make it that the lower items will have some use not just use the item you have and level up to 101 then think about what item better and what is not.

In the end, i really don't mean any harm to you i just want to say that the idea of adding more level in general is bad.

Note: If the update with dern or fruma were added with more level like 1-125 i will be Shocked.

 

I am not in any way suggesting adding a new level cap. My entire goal is to avoid that. Anyways lets answer your questions:
1. This is endgame content, obviously.
2. Adding a new level cap, as mentioned earlier, has a ton of issues. All high level items now are essentially worthless since they are no longer high level. Second, it just delays the problem of there being a lack of stuff to do in the endgame. Epic Levels are meant to add new features to mess around with and allow for more challenging content, all while greatly increasing the average playtime and not making people’s builds and items worthless. Adding a new level cap is also way more OP than Epic Levels: Using your 50 level increase example, level 150 will give players 100 more skill points to use, on new insanely powerful items that dwarf level 100 builds (which can already do tens of thousands of damage).
3. Yes, there will be more new level 100 quests, dungeons, bosses, areas, and other challenges. They will be challenging but not insanely hard so you can play them at level 100 or with a lot of epic perks as well.

As to your other points: Please remember this is NOT an increase of the level cap. Increasing the level cap would, as you mentioned, greatly increase the gap between players and make high level players more OP. This system does not make players anywhere near as OP as increasing the level cap, even with this, level 100 mobs will still be a decent challenge to fight. I also want to point out that you don’t get 4 sp per epic level, 4sp is the max you can possibly get no matter how high your epic level is. Normal levelling is way more OP.

Making it harder to level up doesn’t in any way help players who are already at max level. I spent many months levelling up to 100, others speedrun it. This suggestion is to improve the endgame, not early game.

 

Now i understand what is Epic Level but still there are some points i want to say about:
1-I know that the max sp for Epic Level is four.
2-when i said it will be OP what i meant is Epic Levels will make them more powerfull (4sp, ability, perks) i didn’t mean that Epic Level is more OP than 100sp.
3-Endgame content is different from this what Epic Level will add is more quests and dungeons and items and other challenges and it make it from 1-101 to 1-101 and extra 50 at level 100.
4-Endgame content is something you can do it unlimited when you get to level 100, 101 not something you can get finsh once like epic level.
5-Epic Level cannot be done unlimited times once you get to level 100, 101 and you can’t use the excuse of that they will never reach the end of it or that it will be very hard.
6-It seems i was wrong about mythic being usless with epic level and about the gap between players.

And i understand that this is for people who get to level 100, 101 to get them to do things but that is not right what endgame content is something like Unlimited even when you finshed it like LI, CSST, Guilds, Market, Grinding, Nether (Wait did i just say the nether).

And even early content game can be better than endgame content i always do other class and play in them still i didn’t go far with them.

My thoughts about it in conclusaion:
It will make the player more powerfull and it will add so many places with 100 level.

Adding more level is bad.


Note: sorry for arguing so much

 

This is awesome!

 

you did bumps for 10 threads in 10 minutes.
Good Person

 

Sounds amazing but 2 things.
The reset scrolls should be purchasable at another merchant since tower of amnesia is for lvl 30people and that scroll might confuse them.
The skilled solidger skill should also have a negative effekt, an idea I had for it is that it will take away some health.

 

Just noticed the tower of amnesia thing, thanks. I’ll edit it to make it say that ToAm will be changed to be level 90 and the goal of the quest itself will also be changed.
About the Skilled soldier perk, it’s basically to not take away the extra 2 sp from level 101, and it’s not enough of a benefit to give it any serious drawbacks

 

Oh, I read the skilled solidger wrong, I thought you wanted it to add more mana. Sorry, my fault

 

So like Paragon levels in Diablo III for example? Sounds good!
But i am a new player so i do not know the implications for the end game for all current players...

 

Bump! Any more criticism for v1.3?

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Currently planning to revamp how Epic Abilities are unlocked so they’ll be more difficult to get, allowing for them to be this powerful without worrying about breaking the game.

 

v1.3 Finished!

Changelog:
- Reworked Epic Abilities entirely
- Added more detailed description of how Epic Abilities work
- Some new perks and abilities!