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Concept: Ultimate Weapons

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by SPYROHAWK, Feb 1, 2016.

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What do you think

  1. Great concept. I would like to see it developed upon

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  2. Pretty good. Could be promising

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  3. It's ok...

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  4. I don't really like it

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  5. The concept is really in need of improvement

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  1. Seblind

    Seblind Yes.

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    Ha, I have a higher chance of winning the lottery in my country 10 times in a row than ever getting one of theese drops. (we're about 5 million people where I live)

    I dont think you realize how big of a number 1 billion is. And then 5 billion?
     
  2. DarkDemonDragon

    DarkDemonDragon Sorta Veteran

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    Well this is a common concept in big MMORPGs. It's not that abnormal to make game breaking weapons that only a handful of players actually have. Usually these fall into the hands of the top guilds and sets up sort of a symbol of power for the guild to rally under. It's up to the Admins whether they are ok with weapons like this being released into the world.
     
  3. Devourer

    Devourer Lava Warrior VIP+

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    If there are only 20, then what if that one noob/troll throws it away or sells it to the item buyer, what if someone loses one or what if someone keeps it and they are afk forever? Then there would be no ultimates.
     
  4. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    I meant 20 different ones. Not like 20 in all. Like it's not like there's only 1 Thunder bow item in the game, but there's only 1 thunder bow type.

    I don't feel like I know how to explain this.

    Imagine these are different colored rocks. There is not just 1 red rock in the whole world. There could be five hundred red rocks. But no other rocks would be similar two the red rock. There's more than twenty actual items, but only 20 like types.

    Do you get what I mean or am I not explaining this correctly?
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    Like let's say the Lightning bow is called Bob. There is not only one Bob, there could be many bobs. But another item named joe could not be a lightning bow, since Bob is already our lightning bow
     
  5. Devourer

    Devourer Lava Warrior VIP+

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    Oh I see what you mean... in that case maybe. But see how some people found mythics in about a week. Yes, only some people, but now we see them everywhere. Maybe they should be even rarer than 1 in 5 billion. Maybe like 100 trillion just to make sure almost nobody ever gets them.
     
  6. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    If people are saying 1 in 5 billion is too high, I don't think I should raise it. And do you think it would be too cruel for them to be untradable?
     
  7. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Haven't read all the comments yet, but there are only about 20 Mythics too, so if you want there to lower chance than 1 in 50 million, you should change that.
     
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  8. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    There are more than 20 mythics. And the thing about mythics is that there are like 3 water wands, where as here theses only one item for each class element.

    And I don't think I want to lower the chances
     
  9. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    That's incorrect. There are only 16 in the API, with only 2 others known, Archangel and Az. Considering the possibility of more Mythics, while unlikely, I decided to round it up to 20.
     
  10. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Oh. Hmm...

    I could have sworn there were more...
     
  11. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    It does sometimes feel like that, considering the large amount of Mythics in the Trade Market.

    Then again, it should be expected for a set of items with a roughly 1 in 50,000 chance of dropping.
     
  12. Kraby

    Kraby *insert clever meme* VIP+

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    Or they dont have to break the game and instead they can make mythics twice as rarer and mybe add mythic accessories or more weapons if they feel like it
     
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  13. Devourer

    Devourer Lava Warrior VIP+

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    No, I wouldn't actually. It would make it more unique. But still, even with 5 billion... well, it took about a week for the first mythic to be found. In theory, it would take 500 weeks for the first ultimate to be found, so I guess it might be at the right rarity.
     
  14. Frostburn

    Frostburn Famous Adventurer

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    Off-topic: Possibly fusion reactors, they require power on startup, but they fuse 2 hydrogen atoms which creates large amounts of energy and one helium atom. The large amount of energy can be converted to more power than what was used.

    On-topic: I honestly believe that creating an extremely rare weapon tier with new separate skins would be plain useless.

    Thunder(Warrior): How would chain work? Just plain old AoE? Or an actual lightning chain? How far will the chain go and is there a max chain?

    Fire(Mage and assassin): How fast will the flame thrower be? Or will it just be a flame tosser?
    I think this would just be overpowered with damage potential with long ranged assassin weapons.

    Earth(Assassin): What do you mean by "Same as above?" I really think you meant same as the ranged attack of the assassin.

    Water(Warrior and assassin): How would one create a counter-attack where you're not damaged but the attacker is countered?(It could be possible, I'm no coder) How would the counter-attack work? Is it damage, stunned, weakened, all of the former?
    "Dagger: All attacks have >100% health steal" I don't think life steal's not a percentage, I think it should just be <1000 Life steal

    Air: Many things are fine except Mage, the tornado spam would unlikely, maybe, possibly, likely, very likely, yep definitely, definitely would cause lag issues both for the player and the coffee stained servers. It's not a spell that has a mini cool-down and a mana cost, that makes if very very(very+very=super I learned today) spammable.

    These are just a few tweaks and questions, no need to answer em.
     
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  15. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    So this is just a concept, and in concepts I don't go into details. So I don't know exactly how far the Lightning could chain and things like that. You make very valid points except for the earth assassin. When I said same as above I was referring to the earth Mage, and the length of the effect. I said the poison as forever, and by "same as above" I meant the slowness was also handled in that fashion
     
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  16. MattTheMerchant

    MattTheMerchant Nightmare Fuel

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    Twenty new item models would require twenty minecraft items reskinned. I talked to the lead artist, they don't have enough minecraft
    Items for the textures. So no, that won't work. And again, 1/5 billion would make it so LITERALLY NOBODY WOULD GET IT. Do you realize the chances of that happening? That's like winning the lottery ten+ individual times. 1/392 million
     
  17. Jacoblouis

    Jacoblouis Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    While this is a cool idea, I think the drop rate is a little extreme. The mythics have a 1 in a million chance To drop and there are still some mythics that have yet to be found (or atleast mentioned on the forums) so these items would probably only turn up months after the initial release. I think these would be cool if they had some lore to them. The whole "ultimate weapon" deal seems forced and I think it should be backed up with some lore to make it fit nicely
     
  18. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Well of coarse there would be lore. I am actually embarresed I forgot to add that

    ---Edit---

    Added
     
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  19. Killoli

    Killoli looking for a girlfriend HERO

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    I like your idea.
    But I have a feeling that it may not work, but I can't point it out, because I don't know. :P
    Maybe it's the name of the weapons that bothers me? Hard to already get mythics for the poor (even though Gavel gives a lot of currency) ? Idk, I guess the two questions are why I doubt the suggestion, but I like it and doubt it, but I like the suggestion more than I doubt it.
     
  20. Geno

    Geno I enjoy chicken. VIP+

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    solar energy you goof (facepalm) :P
     
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