Changing Champion Slots

CrunchyCol · Jun 15, 2021

Voting is good! (do it)

HV_Metal · Jun 18, 2021

Bumpity bump

CrunchyCol · Jun 18, 2021

CrunchyCol said: ↑

Edit: It was suggested that I go into more depth about the interactions between bomb bell, /switch, and Champion slots, which is probably a good thing to add, so here it is:

Bomb bell gives a notification to every Champion player online who isn't on the world where the bomb was thrown. There is a random delay after a bomb is thrown, but the delay is quite short (0 to 30sec afaik), and especially insignificant since the delay timer starts when the bomb is thrown, not activated. To clarify, when a bomb is used by a player, there is a short animation of a firework star being thrown on the ground with a fuse that burns up and then explodes. This explosion is what activates the bomb and what notifies all the players in the world that a bomb has been thrown. However, the random delay for bomb bell means that Champions on other worlds can know a bomb has been used before the players on that world do. Through the use of /switch Champions can fill up the world extremely quickly, before anyone else even finds out about the bomb (through guild chat, pms, bomb tracker discord, etc.). Letting guildmates or friends know that there are bombs on your world might mean nothing if Champions have already filled up all 45 slots in the world. It is this trifecta of perks (slots, bomb bell, /switch) that gives Champions such an advantage for getting into bomb worlds. Changing Champion slots would still let Champions use bomb bell and /switch to find and go to bomb worlds quickly and easily, but would give other players a chance to get into the world by spam clicking in the lobby. Still very powerful, but not in the toxic way that they are now.
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Typhoon · Jun 21, 2021

Bumping this again.

Though I do want to add maybe also consider putting some sort of timer on /switch as well, so it’s still simpler than having to go to the hub and finding the bomb world, but isn’t any more advantageous. Something like “Stand still for 10 sec to switch to WC#” would make /switch more of a true QoL feature than provide instant switching to a bomb world for champs.

Salted · Jun 21, 2021

yo peeps!

I've been told by the team that y'all really wanted an update on this, and it's true we've been overly silent:

we agree that we should change CHAMPION slots as they ended up being better than we expected when designing the new rank. however, we don't have a timeframe for this for a few reasons:
- changing this in a way that fixes the issue AND doesn't make the feature flat out useless is more work than it may appear. i've seen suggestions of separating the slots so that CHAMPIONs always fill up the CHAMPION slots even when a server isn't full, but this seems more like a subtle way of completely nuking the feature since most servers will always have the slots filled up even when nothing is happening
- we're in the middle (or near) of multiple projects for both 1.20.3 and 1.21 and we are lacking the free time necessary to fix this
- in my own opinion, the issue isn't as widespread or problematic as it may appear sometimes. it mostly becomes a significant issue when there is a double XP weekend happening, or someone's throwing a huge public bomb party. don't get me wrong we should still fix it, but i don't see it as an urgent thing to fix ASAP as, for example, a widespread dupe would

in game development, it's very easy to over-promise and being unable to deliver, especially with a small team as we have at wynncraft. veterans will know we've done it too many times in our early days. this is why i'm not guaranteeing or promising anything here, but we are indeed aware and acknowledges that it is an issue we should fix, and one that we want to fix properly.

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Changing Champion Slots

Should Champion slots be changed?

Yes, to how it’s suggested in this thread.

Yes, but changed in a different way (in what way?).

No, they shouldn’t be changed.

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