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Game Mechanics Buff forgery chest

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by OriTheSpirit, Oct 3, 2021.

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  1. OriTheSpirit

    OriTheSpirit Feesh Time 24/7 HERO

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    Ok so, hello there.

    The forgery chest is currently just too bad to be ran at this point.

    XP bonus is gone, and the runes/keys you get isn't even rewarding for spending the time to run all 7 dungeons without dying

    The mythic chance is also extremely low for the time invested in it (Generally a forgery doubles run take me 30 minutes)
    30 minutes for 1% chance of getting a mythic may not sound THAT bad but then you realize people usually get their first forgery mythic in somewhere between 30-60 which is 15-30 hours, then looking back at lootrunning, people could get mythics generally in a few hours (Unsure about the rate but, average 1.5k chest takes like 6-8 hours?)
    Not to mention that running forgery efficiently requires more skill than lootrunning, I feel forgery chest's reward is pretty ass right as of now.

    Potential ideas?

    Buff the forgery mythic rate to somewhere 1.5% - 2%
    Increase drops of the items (Mostly fragments, scrolls etc)
    Add some forgery exclusive items
     
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  2. MlecznyHuxel99

    MlecznyHuxel99 Fruman walls guy VIP+

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    It would be cool if 64 forgery chains could be traded for Forgery Chestplate, chainmail chestplate which gives no stats, similar to legendary medallion
     
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    Sugo Degenerate No Life CHAMPION

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    Idea no. 1: Forgery Merchants
    in Forgery Market
    Forgery Market is an extra small area (accessible like how dungeons in forgery are accessed)
    In the forgery market, you can find several forgery merchants that can sell endgame gear for forgery chains, like how Qira Hive works, however, these gears are unidentified and rollable to make a non luck based impact into the economy of wynn and make good items that can be properly grinded out

    Idea no. 2: Forgery Attunements
    in Forgery Market
    Inside the market, you can also find a NPC that can upgrade your gear in exchange for runes / chains (chains to make forgery chest useful)
    These attuments would work like stat boosters or enchantments, and are a whole different suggestion.

    Idea no. 3: Mythic chance increased on successive runs
    Every forgery run you complete gives you 1% (subject to change) extra chance on getting a mythic, since mythics are so easy to obtain nowadays with lootrunning, might as well make it rewarding for players who would grind a ton and make it less painful to grind forgery chests, even for mythics.
     
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    JoarBjorn Skilled Adventurer

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    It also takes alot of resources or time to get the keys necessary for the runs aswell.
     
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  5. Je Hooft

    Je Hooft Hardlocked on A Hunter's Calling HERO

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    Keep in mind mythics were never the primary purpose of Forgery runs. The fact that doing Forgery for mythics is inefficient is intended since it's just not meant to be the main reward for doing forgery runs. More forgery chest exclusive items (like Tisaun's Valor, Gale's Sight and Ensa's Faith) would be appreciated though, definitely wouldn't hurt to add a few new exclusive Fabled items.

    The main investment of forgery runs is money spent on runes and keys, and in turn you get a ton of XP and some bonus items. You phrased it like you can no longer get XP bonus to work on the forgery chest. Is that true? In that case I don't understand why they would do that since it is the only reason people do forgery especially at lower levels. That means that if the XP bonus is gone, there would have to be some other reward that isn't money (since that's the investment). Though I wouldn't really know what.
     
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  6. Lousyre

    Lousyre Famous Adventurer

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    It's a bug.
     
  7. Lex!

    Lex! :] QA GM CMD CHAMPION

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    not a bug. letting xp bonus work on forgery chest resulted in people being able to max out xp bonus in a safe space with zero danger. the base xp got buffed somewhat to compensate (it's possible it could be buffed again)
     
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  8. Lousyre

    Lousyre Famous Adventurer

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    Wait, didn't you said you'll be looking into it in a questions thread? (Iirc)
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    Here.
     
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    Lex! :] QA GM CMD CHAMPION

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    yeah, that's why the base xp got buffed somewhat, lol
     
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    Lousyre Famous Adventurer

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    Oh, ok.
     
  11. YoshisWorld

    YoshisWorld Famous Adventurer Media CHAMPION

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    Is it level depending or dungeon depending?
     
  12. Lex!

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    depends on how many dungeons you've got completed
     
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    YoshisWorld Famous Adventurer Media CHAMPION

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    Can you buff XP dungeon or the chest XP then?
     
  14. OriTheSpirit

    OriTheSpirit Feesh Time 24/7 HERO

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    Exactly why this post is here though?
    I was told by them to post it here if we are needing a change here.

    This is the change i want to make rn
     
  15. Je Hooft

    Je Hooft Hardlocked on A Hunter's Calling HERO

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    I'm saying this to inform you that mythic drop rates aren't going to be buffed. Salted himself said that farming mythics through forgery runs is inefficient and that it is intended, probably because it would mess up mythic prices otherwise: "We made the Forgery Chest give other types of rewards than just XP... including Mythics. Not to worry, this is a VERY inefficient way to get a Mythic. But we will definitely run this through a HERO beta to make sure it's not too OP. Loot running should still be more effective."
    So what you're doing is confirming that Forgery mythic drops work as intended.
     
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  16. OriTheSpirit

    OriTheSpirit Feesh Time 24/7 HERO

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    We are quite informed that forgery run for mythics isn't a real intended way to it but please re-check again. I would like to change this thing.

    I don't care what Salted have said before, I want to change this, and it's up to him to take this idea or not.
     
  17. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Well he didn’t take this idea so it’s not gonna be changed then.
     
  18. OriTheSpirit

    OriTheSpirit Feesh Time 24/7 HERO

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    If he comments on this thread clearly stating he won't then it's only fair, but he didn't
     
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    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    He did though. They just pointed out that Salted said the Forgery shouldn’t be better than lootrunning. It hasn’t been changed and Salted hasn’t said anything else to indicate that he might change his mind; so there’s no reason to assume that he did or he will in the future.
     
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