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World Balanced Nether

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Kahsol, Feb 3, 2016.

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  1. Kahsol

    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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    I'm level 84....
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    its not my fault they run around at speeds i cant keep up with spamming OP spells
     
  2. VildeZeL

    VildeZeL Well-Known Adventurer

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    Well if they nerf speed and all reflection and stuff then warriors would be op get better build :/
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    Pls get good and better stuff and if someone is too low leveled he can always go grinding so this thred was pointless i think :/
     
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    UltimateShitLord Mhm CHAMPION

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    -1 I loved the nether before 1.11 and I'm glade its finally back after like 2 years
     
  4. Sanae_pls

    Sanae_pls That Fucking Dark Wizard

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    Archer
     
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  5. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    Ok I just read through this whole thing, and you've sort of been going off on @Enderman1234 he hasn't been rude or anything at all. He did try to stop it, and you did continue it anyways.

    Next: I prefer a nether where builds actually apply. I LIKE the idea that the effort players out in the game actually had a value.

    Next: the main issues you've listed that are wrong with the nether (arrow storm, speed, reflection) have a lot more to do with classes being strong than with the nether being bad. And last time I checked, before gavel a lot of people wanted their builds to apply in the nether.
    Also just want to say I think it'll be better once the intelligence mana thing is fixed
     
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    flip Chef HERO

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    Don't feel bad, instead, laugh at their fails, plus you could just suggest private servers for the nether so you can 1v1 who ever you want with you one shot killing any noobs.
     
  7. VildeZeL

    VildeZeL Well-Known Adventurer

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    Lol archer is good now pls stop that nerf thing
     
  8. Kahsol

    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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    I didn't call him any names or insult him, and he didn't seem offended, don't add to the fire when it's already been put out.

    I've seen NOBODY want builds to apply in the nether. Maybe they do though, but NOBODY has said anything about it. I want a balanced nether where everyone can enjoy a simple, short game of battle royale.
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    This thread is not pointless. As I've stated multiple times I don't want a Nether where the lvl 100s rule the server. You might as well add a quest to unlock it at lvl 100 then, since anybody lower than 90 has no chance at winning. Its boring. Its not fun. I want a level 40 to dominate, or maybe a lvl 30 assassin, maybe a level 80 mage. I don't want the case of the highest leveled player wins EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. If I want to PVP in Wynncraft, and that's my favorite activity, and I just joined the server, I have to grind all the way to level 100 for months just to do that? No, that's unfair. I miss the old Nether and it's balancedness. Players who actually knew how to use spells properly and use combos could reign supreme, while even the lower levels had a chance too. I want to challenge a lvl 100 mage while I'm lvl 60 and win. The Nether is not a Duel.

    Even the website states that the Nether strips your armor's magical qualities, and your skills as well, meaning only your weapon would count, which would probably be kinda good. That would mean the Dev team would make it so we all have, lets say, 1000 health, and all of our weapons do the same damage, depending on what skills we have. If our skills branch out more into ____ then we do that damage with our basic attack. The website also states that the Nether is supposed to be fair and endless.

    All of this applies to everybody who thinks the opposite.

    You people just want games where you can one-shot anyone who isn't that good, or someone who messed up their skills. You kind of people take pleasure in killing low levels and laughing at mid level's faces. You just slay anybody lower level than you and make them bored, make them think Wynncraft has a terrible PVP system. Which at the moment, it sort of does due to the Nether. This current PVP system is unbalanced and OP. You've seen those builds that do 10k damage, WITH A METEOR. You could do so much more with other classes, especially with these Mythics. You could kill people in a few hits, which makes everything boring.

    Players like you people just want to play God in something that's not supposed to be.

    @Lesliep
    @VildeZeL
    @Enderman1234 <--- Its ok, I knew it was an opinion, but since you think otherwise, I just want you to read this, that's all.
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    Mage vs Mage fights are extremely boring since they just equip their reflection gear and laugh in your face, taking away the fun. So does every other class. And as I've stated with Archer's speed and its arrowstorm, combined with powerful armor and weapons, I, a level 84 mage, dies in about a second or two by the storm. That's very fair, when they're moving so fast that ice snake doesn't work and I can't get meteor lock on. People like you just want to dominate the server, and be king. Thats not what the Nether is. There is no throne, there is no kingdom. There is just insanity, and corrupt magic. The corrupt magic destroy's your armor's magic, rendering it useless, while your weapon's magic is dulled as well, and your elemental skills taking no effect in a bland, evil enriched world such as the Nether. Hell, even the official LORE agrees with me. Wynncraft doesn't have to be like every other MMO where if your not "power enough" nobody spares you, and everybody kills you for a "free kill!"
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  9. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    ...if it helps, I got rid of my pure. The build was too generic xD
    @Laelia owns it and drops 20k meteors at the moment.
    Anyways... It's not that we want to be OP. It's a lot more that we like the idea that classes are diverse? I like the idea that I could fight a tank, a sniper, a teleport Mage, all these different things! Forcing our pvp system to be reduced to a basic style where everybody has the exact same gear is, simply put, boring! There's no imagination, or planning, or diversity! And yes that is what the help page said before about endless and balanced pvp. However, a lot of the help page hasn't even been updated yet. For example, it still displays the old mana costs for spells under the class help.
    Next: this nether system will be FAR better once both powders come out, and items are rebalanced. Currently you've been repeatedly freaking out about reflection being OP: that has to do with reflection being OP all the time, not because of the nether!
    Also if you want a 10k meteor you can literally just choose ethereal and some ok spell armor. It's superbly easy to do.
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    I'm simply pointing out the things she has complained about.
     
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    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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    To be honest, reflection in PVE and PVP are two different things. Nobody complains about reflection being "OP!" in PVE, because it's just computer made mobs. In PVP however, you're fighting other players, and that can get them aggravated because they're forced to switch their WHOLE style and pretty much lose every round until that happens. Hell, even thorns would annoy a melee class, it'll even bug me. Poison is annoying since it prevents escape by pretty much killing you. You rarely get poisoned without getting hit directly a bunch of times first.

    And the PVP system? So what if you have the same gear? That wasn't boring, and you saw twice, three times the players in the Nether around the EULA time. This current system is unfair, boring, and ruins the Nether and PVP. I can understand if it was a Duel, because a Duel is a measure of strength.

    And you can't argue with official lore.

    When the website was updated, don't you think they would have changed that? They didn't, because it was right. Pretty sure they didn't CTRL + C then CTRL + V. The Nether destroys any magic that it doesn't own, therefore our armor and attacks would all be dulled to the same degree.
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    Most of the other IDs are fine since they honestly don't do much. Spell damage IDs and Melee damage IDs need to be nerfed as well, since as you stated, somebody doing 20k is absurd. Thats honestly OP for a PVP fight and ruins fun.

    "Oh yea, I'll just kill you, and you, and you, aaaand I think I've one-shotted everybody!"
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    And you've been focusing on the fact that it's "boring" when their were more players on pre-gavel-nether. You have barely been focusing on my IDs situation and the class' power and spells.
    I also was not aware of this "item rebalancing."
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    This isn't a suggestion, just more of a, whoever said it, "Hey! This needs to be fixed or nerfed!"
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    And, if the Nether can't be changed, there has to be some compromise, because the current system is broken.
     
  11. VildeZeL

    VildeZeL Well-Known Adventurer

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    I like this nether more
     
  12. Kahsol

    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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    That fails to provide any real argument,
    but ok.
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    And, I respect everybody's opinion, its just that to me, and a handful of players, this Nether is boring and broken. <---- my main point
     
  13. VildeZeL

    VildeZeL Well-Known Adventurer

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    Still thats my opinion
     
  14. Kahsol

    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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    And I respect it. :>
     
  15. VildeZeL

    VildeZeL Well-Known Adventurer

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    Cool :)
     
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    Havelo Random Adventurer

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    mikelegend123 Gone VIP+

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    I'm not going to lie to you guys. As long as the nether remains with level advantages and armor effects etc, the nether will never ever find true balance.
     
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