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Abusive Mage Heal

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by altimos64, May 27, 2016.

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Is what the mage's heal needs a nerf

  1. yes

    16.9%
  2. no

    83.1%
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  1. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Killing bosses may take longer
    BUT
    At least we can actually solo most of them now, unlike before!
    ...iiit just takes us a while.
     
  2. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    mind you I could solo most bosses (bob and death excluded) perfectly fine, now I still can't solo them.
    maybe it wasn't mage that got nerfed, maybe I just suck.
     
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  3. aayl

    aayl Famous Adventurer

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    It mightve been the spell damage nerf.

    Before:
    BREAKING NEWS, LEVEL 80 MAGE SOLOES QIRA FIRST TRY!
    AMAZING! LEVEL 40 CLEARS THE TOWER OF ASCENSION FIRST TRY! SAYS THAT 'HEAL SPELL GOT ME THROUGH IT'
    LEVEL 74 MAGE SOLOES BOB WITH DEPRESSING WAND

    After:
    'I MIGHT RAGEQUIT,' SAYS LEVEL 80 MAGE. 'QIRA IS JUST TOO HARD'
    DAILY QUESTIONS WITH THE MANTIS, TODAY'S ISSUE: IS IT NATURAL TO HAVE NOT FINISHED THE TOWER OF ASCENSION AT LEVEL 100, MAGE CLASS?
    BOB ON THE LOSE: HIDE YOUR CHILDREN HIDE YOUR WIVES, AND CALL RIPJAW
     
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  4. altimos64

    altimos64 Travelled Adventurer

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    the question here is not the dps of the mage, but is healing spell. I have read a lot of time " need 3 heal to recover full life"... ok but with only one spell at the good time you recover 70% for 2 mana, in a duel it's totally enough to survive. The mage is support class, so a nerf on the self heal would not be a probleme, and i don't think divide by 3 the heal spell but reduce from 70% to 50%-40% would be far enough no ?
     
  5. donda biblioteca

    donda biblioteca donda esta dond CHAMPION

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    FYI when Im at 2/7260 , I wont get full life with 3 heals
     
  6. Triverr

    Triverr Cool Cat Adventurer HERO

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    Like I said before, the heal spell does NOT restore a fixed percentage of your health. The amount of health you get back is proportional to your current health. I'm not sure if it's ever really possible to heal more than 30(ish)% (this is an extremely rough estimate) of your health in one heal cast.
     
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  7. altimos64

    altimos64 Travelled Adventurer

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    i understand the HP restore depend on the actual lvl of life, but for my friend recover 4000 HP on is 5000 HP max when he use is spell at 1/3 of is life
     
  8. Emeraldruler

    Emeraldruler God of Emeralds | Fire Mage VIP

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    To restate a bit of what everyone else has said heal isn't overpowered because it is less effective when you're lower health. While high Intel and mana regen, like many mages myself included use, you are able to heal more health and quicker keep in mind the mana regen identification has a four second period between bursts of extra mana and while it may seem overpowered to have a build like this it usually comes with a massive thunder weakness and some earth weakness so weapons/spells that do thunder are very effective against this build, I can confirm this as really the only time I lose a duel is against someone who has a thunder or earth weapon/spell. Then you have to consider that Mage doesn't do much damage compared to the other three classes, so if you can survive them then you can most likely kill them.
     
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  9. TempleOfLegends

    TempleOfLegends Emma CHAMPION

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  10. Devourer

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    I've pointed out that heal isn't op before, but I have now found even more reasons to prove it:
    1. Heal gives more health from the base heal if the mage has higher health. This means that if the mage has low health, they will barely heal. At less than 100 health, it can take mages up to 10 heals to get to full health, possibly more. By then, their mana will be drained.
    2. Speaking of mana, heal costs a lot, with the highest mana cost at low level and equal mana cost to meteor at higher-ish levels. Which means that if they are trying to fire meteors and heal at the same time, or if they need to repeatedly heal, that is going to be one hell of a mana cost.
    3. Interestingly, the bonus heals over time give more health if the mages are on low health. While this can be a problem, all you need to do is to trap them and damage them until they run out of mana. Remember, to heal they will more likely use heals than potions, so they will use, as I said above, a combination of meteors and heals, which will drain mana more than you, because you might only be using one kind of spell if and once you corner them.
    4. Speaking of potions, use them. Sure, they cost money, but unless you used all your money on horses, you should have plenty of it lying around. Just get lots of potions, and you will heal in no time. While recovering, mages may also recover their health, but you will recover mana, because they will use theirs on healing while you regenerate both mana and health. Once healed, find them, and kill them before they get their mana back. Yes, they might have mana regen, but in most cases you will be able to find them in four seconds and get the upper hand because you can cost lots of spells before they can even start attacking you.
    5. Oh yes, healing happens to take away negative effects... except that assassins can also do this. Then archer has three spells with negative effects. However, only one of these spells lasts for a long time anyway, and removing negative effects has to be useful for something. Then warrior has a similar thing to this on bash, but two things about that. First, exactly what I said about archer. Second, I don't see many warriors use bash anyway.
     
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    LETS NURF HEAL SO EVERYONE N YOUR PARTY CAN DIE AGAINST BASICALLY ALL BOSSES. (i only have to spend more than 2 LE on health pots for all classes but mage .-.)
     
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  12. gadfskhj

    gadfskhj Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    Where's the suggestion?
     
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    TO NURF HEAL SO THE WHOLE PARTY CAN DIE! :D
     
  14. gadfskhj

    gadfskhj Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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