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World 1 Roast = 1 Like : Update The Nether 73 People Want It

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Khaps, Nov 11, 2017.

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Should this be added?

  1. Yes (when dislike will come I swear you're going to have a bad ratio!!!)

    63.0%
  2. No (explain why)

    21.0%
  3. Yes but you need to change this (TELL ME WHAT TO CHANGE IF YOU JUST SAY CHANGE THIS I CANT UNDERSTAN

    22.7%
  4. D

    39.5%
  5. There should be more available characters in polls

    35.3%
  6. Roast me Khapsu senpai

    31.1%
  7. Golems like to eat pineapple pizza

    40.3%
  8. Khaps should stop using drugs when creating polls

    51.3%
  9. This should definitevely be in VIP plazza

    37.0%
  10. I just wanted to make as many possible answers as possible (made it btw)

    39.5%
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  1. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Well if we're taking out Agility for making people invincible, we should also remove rainbow tanks as they'll just become more powerfulwithout poison and agility
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    Nope. Rainbow tanks will just come to dominate the Nether
     
  2. Khaps

    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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    Maybe not totally remove agility or poison, but at least nerf it.
     
  3. CountBurn

    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    melee builds get destroyed by mages, and when mages use melee builds its total cancer
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    if the rainbow tanks dont have agility we can actually hit them then, and why would taking away agility make rainbow tanks better
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    I'm not saying it would make them better, I'm saying that Rainbow tanks wouldn't come off as badly as other builds would due to the agility nerf, and would dominate the meta because they'd be stronger than anything else, especially without poison builds to counter them.
     
  5. Khaps

    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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    Poison builds are good agaisn't NON tank, and rainbow is part of the tanks, removing (or at least nerfing) poison would make it easier for non-tanks to survive, while it wouldn't really mind too much with tanks since poison wasn't there biggest pain.
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Poison builds are good against basically everything. And while removing/nerfing poison would make it easier for non tanks to survive, it wouldn't matter because most non-tank/glass cannon builds can't do much to rainbow tanks, with the possible exception of raw spell builds and full glass cannon mythics. And by that point, rainbow tanks would still output more damage to opponents than they take, especially since Agility would be removed, which takes away the defensive capabilities of a lot of glass cannon builds, which just leads us back to square one, where one or two types of builds dominate PvP, except that it goes much slower, instead of being luck based. This is exactly why Rainbow tanks and rainbow items are so common right now in PvE, where poison and agility aren't as big of factors; glass cannons are just too weak to be justified, especially since a lot of tankier items (Libra, Hive items) boost damage as well as give great defenses.
     
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    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    I just 1v1 a warrior tank with an assasssin melee build and won, and I would have killed them so much quicker if limbo actually worked, but if they were a mage they would be unkillable because of heal and ice snake, they did have a ton of agility also
    and in the nether then it was just me on my assassin a spell archer and a tank warrior and it was the most balanced and enjoyable the nether has ever been for me, but if there were a mage there it would have ruined everything

    and if you want proof ask hot_meme
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Then you're obviously a much better player than him. If you were equal on skill than I doubt you'd have won.
    Also, taking your personal experience and trying expanding it to everyone doesn't disprove what I'm saying; it just means you had an unlikely matchup. The vast majority of builds still incorporate rainbow items because they're powerful. If you're going to remove two entire classes of builds because they give an unfair advantage, it should be worth considering nerfing another unfair build as well.

    Also, I never said anything about mages. I agree with nerfing them, poison, and agility, I'm just saying we should nerf rainbow tanks as well.
     
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    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    but is getting killed by a rainbow warrior worse than getting killed by poison or dying because the other guy got lucky with agility or getting spammed by mage ice snake, and the only reason I didnt want to remove the rainbow tanks is because I can still deal damage to them so it doesnt bother me
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Yes, because you can at least kill an agility user or a poison mage. You just need to get lucky. You can't, however, kill a rainbow warrior provided he has enough defense or HP, or at least not faster than he could kill you.
     
  11. Khaps

    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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    I do not agree with you on this :/
    Kill agility user : Really hard, they are often ranged and fast, and when after a minute of chasing them of different manners you get to them and try damaging... They just avoid it ;/

    Poison mage : Impossible, enough hp to survive any attacks (and thus heal) and can ice snake from far away to poison

    Rainbow Warrior : Hard, but not impossible, it sure is long to kill him, not like it is the goal of the buid :/
    Tankiness over damages
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Agility and walk speed is the point of an agility build
    Poison is the point of a poison build
    If you're going to nerf builds for being too good at their jobs, you have to include rainbow tanks.
     
  13. Khaps

    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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    Yes, but if you ever went to the nether, its much harder to kill a ws build than a rainbow tank build :/
    But the fact that it can let you not moving non stop and can heal back and tank anytime isn't
    Why not, rainbow may deserve a little nerf, but clearly isn't as overpowered as the two I talked about above.
     
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    Khaps Ex-moderator and leader of the Mythic Emporium HERO

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