Game Design Mythics Need Balancing...

okay so some mythics are just shit and some are too broken, its been about a year since they came out

Daggers:
Grimtrap - does too much dmg, is good in both melee and spell builds, way too strong compared to the other daggers, NO DRAWBACKS?! nerf this shit pls
Inferno - same state as nirvana, could use a buff (the -agi is killing it tbh)
Cataclysm - broken but thats bc of the builds not the weapon itself
Archangel - does its job, is already balanced
Nirvana - damage is too low, its basically a more offensive water inferno
Weathered - pretty balanced but boring

Bows:
Stratiformis - best ws bow and one of the best dmg bow with only 1.5k hp, good job wynncraft
Spring - does a bit too much dmg, make it like nirvana with a lot of +int and reduce its base dmg
Freedom - great bow overall, balanced but elem tanks are killing it
Az - just like arch, does its job as a "mid-endgame" bow, balanced
Ignis - pretty great, balanced, too bad fire archer sucks ass
Grandmother - too weak, the -health regen is WAY too much for the dmg it deals, buff its base dmg or nerf the hr

also this https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/item-researches-and-possible-problem-for-archer-mythics.181829/

Wands:
Pure - it sucks. needs a rework
Fatal - kinda strong but at the same time it can do very low dmg, i dont see how it could be balanced tbh
Gaia - too strong, needs a rework, make it a real melee wand pls (-2% spell damage, nice)
Lament - a bit weak, buff the base dmg/nerf the life steal maybe
Monster - pretty good but dmg is kinda low, maybe buff the %fire dmg a bit
Warp - too strong but extremely gimmicky and hard to use so its balanced i guess

Spears:
Alkatraz - pretty balanced tbh
Apocalypse - fix ls/exploding and melee builds and itll be balanced
Guardian - balanced, nothing else to say really
Hero - pretty good but PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE IT 33% WS MAX (its also good bc theres no GOOD alternative that isnt hawrwol or something so pls add air spear)
Idol - weak, most of its ids are just useless (reflection, soul point regen, defenses), needs a rework or a massive buff
Thrundacrack - too strong, no drawbacks, nerf its base dmg

Chestplate:
Discoverer - balanced i guess

Boots:
buff or riot
they're unusable

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i dont understand how grimtrap has about twice the dps of inferno while having no drawbacks when inferno has negative water def, health regen, mana regen
or how spring has a lot more dps than grandma and no drawbacks when grandma can't really spam spells, has negative health regen thats really hard to counter except if you have a very good one and has negative walkspeed
mythics are extremely unbalanced rn

 

I love you.

good points on every mythic though
Good work

 

yep nerf
also positive walk speed on earth...

without burnout nerf it was pretty OP with the right build from what I saw, now its pretty much back like it used to be, not so good...

i'm ok, for a low level dagger it can still be used later for walk speed, pretty nice

yes, doesn't need anything else, good like that

I don't know too much for weathered so i'll let you say

yep needs more -hp, to the hope that it doesn't look like cataclysm too much

don't know too much about it

last time I used it, it really sucked, i'd say, more mana regen, more damage

agreed

I don't know too much about it

yep wayyyy too weak, need less -hp reg, and better melee dam

yep

maybe a bit of -hp? but would start to be similar to cataclysml

yep, needs more debuff for spell, to make it a ... fuck i'm quoting you

haven't tested it agaisn't a big group of mob but that would be awful lol, still, it seems ok

needs more damage, better hp bonus

I don't it much except stats I could've seen, can't say anything about it

maybe a bit less damage?

no need to nerf apoc itself, just fix bugs that you've quoted

My love, guardian <3

hero needs more ws for sure

yeah, it clearly needs way better ids, like 5mr, also since warrior doesn't have a 6mr weapon, maybe idol? if they do that, then idol will nerf itself, no need to change other ids even though soul point isn't really the thing you're looking for...

I mean, its still pretty ok, maybe a bit less dmg but that's it

yes... buff plz

 

make az endgame

 

maybe give it -1k more hp and awful -elem defs% (like -46 avg)

if it needed a buff i'd say better elem dmg%, raw spell or mana

or a bit of -ls would work

i mean it's ok but compared to the other mythics it kinda sucks

imo hp is fine, more %melee would be great

na, the walk speed/superslow is already awful

or just lower min dmg

 

My opinion:
I'm really salty about Ignis, as I don't think it's good at what it does, and that's supposed to be increase in survivability.
Archer takes increased dmg, so Ignis's regen isn't nearly enough to counter it. When I had over 120 def points and 12k health, I'd die in 2-3 hits against Qira. Ignis has lower health regen compared to Apoc, who is a warrior's weapon, and warriors naturally have a lot higher defense.
Damage wise, Motoki already said how archer mythics, in general, are doing less damage compared to other mythics. For a class that has the highest base attack, making weapons like that is counterintuitive, as it doesn't compliment them, so you end penalizing both it's attack and defense.
Ironically, I'm doing more damage and have higher survivability using Gale's force because of the WS. Agility+Intel works good, Def+Intel does not.
Opinion would probably be different if they changed how defense worked as the issues I have aren't necessarily connected to Ignis, or at least not directly.

Grandmother, yes, the negative health regen is too great, which is the reason I said I don't consider it a mythic. It also has a noticeable -ws and ws is important for archer as defense does barely anything.

Boots tho, yeah, they are pretty terrible, and that's an understatement.


Why is Salted allowed to have 2 accounts? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

yeah that's kinda unfair how you need 150 def points as an archer to have as much defense as a warrior without any def points, and that's not even accounting war scream
but that's not a problem with ignis really

 

hp on monster must be a thing

alka is often used with statue anyway and +tier gear is already so used with alka that its rarer to find someone not using it than khaps having luck

y not

 

Imo they shouldnt nerf the damage of grimtrap, but the walk speed should be removed and their should be -%spell dmg. After all its a earth dagger...

 

plsno

 

hahahahaaha roflmao good one

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what

 

Yes, please, Thrunda is basically a better water spear right now and that really sucks because with the way my build is set up, Idol is the only one I can use.

By the way, according to the damage calculator, Hive spear w/ T6 Water Powders would do more damage than Idol w/ T6 Water Powders in my build, why.

Right now they're just collector's items, buff plz.

Either that or:

 

yes
thrunda is literally the most broken spear in terms of damage
same for cata

 

Reflection is useful *evil laughter*.

 

but im not sure if it triggers in pve
either way its useless without virgo

 

It does, but it does shit damage in PvE.

 

I really don't think that mythics need that harsh of a nerf considering they are ENDGAME the absolute strongest you can get I'd rather have them buff endgame legendaries. Also warp sucks for an endgame wand it is only a display of wealth. About Stratiformis as an endgame bow it should be powerful also I feel that the -heath bonus is fine as is considering the archer's pitiful defense. Gaia could use a rework to be more melee oriented as it's negative id's hardly affect it. Other than that I agree with most especially the mythic boots.

 

what I mean is that mythics are very unfair rn, on one hand you have like grandma, inferno and on the other hand you have strati and grim
also fyi black is already stronger than inferno so no buff pls

 

bump for awareness