Wynncraft: The Gameplay Update Changeblog #3 [quests]

Jared2183 · Aug 4, 2016

Yay finallly woooot

WynnWalker · Aug 4, 2016

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DireFire · Aug 4, 2016

CAN'T WAIT!!!!

Morgan83 · Aug 4, 2016

That ??? Remake is gonna be awesome!
I'm excited to see how difficult it is to actually figure it out and I'm glad we get to work together on it instead of keeping it a secret. Also the new quests are gonna be nice to do as well. I'm also most hoping for that dojo one! The canyon guide... Hahahahaha... Yeah that's cruel but it'll help everyone to figure out how to navigate the canyon better. Like right now u can't even get to Elton from thanos XD

kioph · Aug 4, 2016

Grian said: ↑

Made by Tantibus, in this quest you need to drag a poor lost soul all the way across the canyon to salvation.
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GAAAAAAHHHHHH TANTIBUS YOU SON OF A BITCH WHYYYYYY WHYYYYYYYY

jk I wuv u :3

4real tho, your fucking cruel ;-;

Frostburn · Aug 4, 2016

Grian said: ↑

This quest is a community event. We have to use the quests system to make it functional and practical. If you read the thread, i also said you have to work together to solve it.
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If you read what I stated, Community Events and quests are different. If you label a quest as a Community Event just because it temporarily brings the community together, then you will achieve a bit then the achievements will become inert. Once the community is done with this one, they'll go back to harassing each other or making rude jokes.

You have to make Community Events re-occurring as a long-term plan to be able to reach a goal of a decent community. A single quest won't do much to get closer to the goal, but re-occurring monthly or bi-weekly events will help a lot, plus it's a long-term plan. It just requires another team dedicated to the creation/hosting and planning of current and future events. They can use the Content Team or the Staff Team to make simpler but still as enjoyable as possible. It can simple be hide and seek games, or fun PvE events where the community fight against special monsters that drop loot that don't benefit players in a way so they can grow. But the events should never give rewards that benefit the player in the previously stated way, it's unfair for the people who missed the event and can cause chaos. Make the item rewards untradable and inept to any entity in the world. It doesn't even have to be an item, but a prefix for players or an inept pet.

Y'see, I'm not just complaining a bit on how you label certain things but, I'm also giving a solution and you can either ignore it or not. Really your choice between the long goal of a decent community or a short monetary gain. You can certainly have both options, but you would have to use lots of personal energy to sort it out.

Tl;Dr, Community Events are not quests, quests should continue giving rewards that benefit the player, Community Events should stay as events that give no beneficial reward to the player.

CrazyCookie · Aug 4, 2016

YAY MORE QUESTS! and third page

HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Kraby · Aug 4, 2016

Holy shit those are way more quests than i thought we will get
Btw if ??? Is that hard i hope it give good rewards :p

Antra · Aug 4, 2016

There was a group that found the extra part after the ??? Quest already.

The puzzle is not hard :p

PillowPet · Aug 4, 2016

Grian said: ↑

Hello everyone!

So this update has been mainly centered around gameplay features - hence the name of the update (duh). But we on the content team have been cooking up some interesting changes of our own!

But before I list off the very short list of quests, I need to explain a few things; one, half of the work we've been putting in over the last 6 months haven't actually been for this particular update. I know, weird thought, huh. This update addresses mainly gameplay stuff. We have actually been working on brand new areas for the NEXT update (not this one). In development, we have to often think about things way in advance of when they happen. Basically, this update, while there are some really cool physical revamps of places such as old towns and quests, there won't be any new areas. Meme land confirmed.

Alright, next thing; I want to thank the GM team for putting together the small quest list for this update. A lot of you will be very upset that there is a severe lack of quests, and I don't want you to blame the GM's at all. There are a very small amount of people on the GM team, and they all have varying amounts of time they can input to Wynn (they have lives too - guys!). So this would probably be a good time to tell you that after this update we will be revamping our GM application system to try and make it a lot easier to understand what it takes to be a GM and make the whole process a lot smoother in general, and hopefully we'll have the community jump to the call to help us make new stories!

On that note, I want to announce that we're also working on improving the quest system in general (in both what we can do, and making it easier to use) this will be the system that is also used for the main storyline. It's currently not very fun to make a quest if you ask any GM, they'll probably confirm that for me :D None the less, they help make them because they are great for Wynncraft!

ALRIGHT ONTO THE ACTUAL UPDATE.

Quests:

Elemental Exercise: Lvl 10

Made by Headset, this is a VERY short quest at the early stages of the game just to act as a little tutorial for people and introduce them to the concept of elements a little more formally in the game. If this is the quest that gets you the most excited; i'm a little worried.

???: lvl 80

We'll talk about this later in the thread.

The Canyon Guides: Lvl 84

Hah, you're going to hate us for this one. Made by Tantibus, in this quest you need to drag a poor lost soul all the way across the canyon to salvation. He will follow you as best he can, but you'll have to protect him from all the canyon creatures! It seems the canyon doesn't want him to be saved though...

The Canary Calls: Lvl 85

Also made by Tantibus (started by AbandonedBank), This quest is about a gas leak in the Thesead mines. They need to get back to work, but the gas isn't as toxic to Humans as it is to Villagers, so they need your help! WARNING: Gas is extremely flammable.

The Hidden City: Lvl 88

Eltom has been a bit of an anomaly for a while, but finally in a quest made by Leo, we have a quest to explain how it got there and why. But there may be a traitor who threatens the secrecy of the town... Founding a Human town in Gavel is strictly illegal.

Enter the Dojo: Lvl 89

This is a short quest in the canyon started by Gold and finished by Villageaclues. Master Miyagi has been teaching his students for years, but none of them can pass his trials, can you?

Recipe For Disaster: Lvl 96

This quest is an interesting one made by NoobyNatty. You'll have to impress a very prestigious chef with your recipe. The better your dish, the better your reward!

The Fortunteller: Lvl 97

And finally, a quest made by AbandonedBank. This is a weird short quest in KandonBeda about fairytales and history. I'll let you figure it out.

You can tell we focused on a content gap in the later levels, but actually left a huge one from 90-95. This was intentional, if a little annoying. I plan to add a "mini storyline" there that will cover the entire area and provide an official lore to Molten Heights. This will be our test of the new quest system and practice for the main storyline. So basically when it's done, the quests in Molten Heights will be a mini mainstoryline (just for that area) and won't have a series of side quests (like in the rest of the game).

Lore :

There have been a few secret rooms added to the map that contain lore.

Added some flavour-text NPC's who will talk to you in towns and offer you citizen based lore about the areas. Due to the limitations of the quest system, these will appear as "Quest NPC's" We will hopefully change that in the future.

Now, onto the big one. The ??? revamp.

Upon the update release, as in, on the first day of the update, there will be a new SECTION on the forums and there will be an official thread by Lotem to tell you about the hell we've been through, but the section is where you can post about your findings on the quest. That's right. "???" quest is now the largest, most unfair and most complicated COMMUNITY EVENT on Wynncraft.

How does it work?

Well, that would be telling. When the update happens, you have to literally figure it out yourself. You won't get ANY help. Not even a hint. I need to make this crystal clear to everyone. It's not fair. It's not designed like a normal game. It's meant to be the most ambiguous, hidden thing in the game. The puzzles are hard, the locations are hidden and the method is 100% unknown. Only 4 people know the whole method to solve it. The CT are Banned from telling anyone anything about this quest or even doing it themselves (as they will have seen some of it on build) until everyone else has done it.

You will be forced to work together as a community to help each other solve this riddle. If you find a room, you should write it on the thread to let everyone know where it is, and they should do the same. If you don't work together, you won't figure it all out.

Once the whole quest is solved, the solution will be permanently available for anyone to see and use. We do not expect all players to figure this one out on their own. It's the ultimate easter egg.

So, as you can tell the big difference is that this version of ??? is now not a secret. You are encouraged to help and talk about it. The quest will be reset for everyone, and anyone can take part. The old quest will no longer exist.

Tantibus, Lotem and I worked VERY hard to make this quest. So, you can blame us. I predict it will take a week to solve, they think at least 3 weeks, i guess we will see.

Good luck. You're going to need it.

That's it from my side! I look forward to showing you what we're working on in future updates - but for now enjoy the quests and have fun trying to solve ???.

Thank you to the entire CT for helping make all the updates happen. You should tell them you love them too. without the CT, there would be no Wynncraft.

Grian
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This is exactly what I wanted for Gavel lore-wise; lore that you have to work for. I also love the new quest ideas. More light-hearted, plus an escort mission!

I wonder if the content team can make a secret that won't be cracked the first few days of its release. It will be fun to find out!

Mrussell75 · Aug 4, 2016

wait nothing that says see you next week for another change blog... This could mean 2 things its either coming out, or there just inst enough to talk about

oHybrid · Aug 4, 2016

Is there gonna be a post by an admin on how you could of done the og ??? ?

awemanrank100 · Aug 4, 2016

Grian said: ↑

If this is the quest that gets you the most excited; i'm a little worried.
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actually i'm somewhat excited for that quest for some reason

Grian said: ↑

The Canyon Guides: Lvl 84

Hah, you're going to hate us for this one.
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Will you be able to kill the NPC you're getting across the canyon? Hopefully not. If you can't, however, that'd be really fun. It's like a whole new type of quest.

Grian said: ↑

Gas is extremely flammable.
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wait wat do you mean

Grian said: ↑

The better your dish, the better your reward!
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Doesn't that mean people who don't do well wouldn't be able to see a better end to the quest?
and how would you cook things

Grian said: ↑

It's not fair. It's not designed like a normal game. It's meant to be the most ambiguous, hidden thing in the game. The puzzles are hard, the locations are hidden and the method is 100% unknown. Only 4 people know the whole method to solve it. The CT are Banned from telling anyone anything about this quest or even doing it themselves (as they will have seen some of it on build) until everyone else has done it.
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OBOIOBOIOBOI
I AM EXCITE

The original ??? wasn't too bad; it took me a fairly high amount of time to solve, but it wasn't something really special in the end. The fact that you can now share makes the quest much more interesting; I'll be sure to help out.

okayokayokay
if the quest isn't even designed like a normal game
it's gotta be outside of the game
or refer to outside of the game
if it wasn't it'd be too easy
unless it referred to lore
maybe the new hidden lore
canyon of the lost has gotta be a major spot
if it's unfair it could be in locations only during a quest
fantastic voyage?
maybe there's something on this post
check the news threads
maybe they'll edit the website itself with secrets
everyone look through the html
the css
...
how unfair can it be
ocean 1x1 block?
maybe admin-edited posts
ooooboi
...
k i'm done

y'know, what's funny is that you say the method's 100% unknown, yet four people know the whole method to solve it

pretzellover33 · Aug 4, 2016

Hopefully only one more changeblog (dungeons) until the update! It seems like the new quests will be a great addition.

Regarding the ??? quest, will we be allowed to say how we did it before this revamp?

Grian said: ↑

Tantibus, Lotem and I worked VERY hard to make this quest. So, you can blame us. I predict it will take a week to solve, they think at least 3 weeks, i guess we will see.
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Is this a bet? What are the stakes?!

TempleOfLegends · Aug 4, 2016

Yay new quests :D, wait.... New ??? where we have to redo it but its 10x harder? kms...

redx475 · Aug 4, 2016

Frostburn said: ↑

If you read what I stated, Community Events and quests are different. If you label a quest as a Community Event just because it temporarily brings the community together, then you will achieve a bit then the achievements will become inert. Once the community is done with this one, they'll go back to harassing each other or making rude jokes.

You have to make Community Events re-occurring as a long-term plan to be able to reach a goal of a decent community. A single quest won't do much to get closer to the goal, but re-occurring monthly or bi-weekly events will help a lot, plus it's a long-term plan. It just requires another team dedicated to the creation/hosting and planning of current and future events. They can use the Content Team or the Staff Team to make simpler but still as enjoyable as possible. It can simple be hide and seek games, or fun PvE events where the community fight against special monsters that drop loot that don't benefit players in a way so they can grow. But the events should never give rewards that benefit the player in the previously stated way, it's unfair for the people who missed the event and can cause chaos. Make the item rewards untradable and inept to any entity in the world. It doesn't even have to be an item, but a prefix for players or an inept pet.

Y'see, I'm not just complaining a bit on how you label certain things but, I'm also giving a solution and you can either ignore it or not. Really your choice between the long goal of a decent community or a short monetary gain. You can certainly have both options, but you would have to use lots of personal energy to sort it out.

Tl;Dr, Community Events are not quests, quests should continue giving rewards that benefit the player, Community Events should stay as events that give no beneficial reward to the player.
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There's no technical difference between community events and quests, you're just arguing semantics. The community event here is to figure out how to do a quest. You're also complaining that there aren't enough community events, but there's now two coming up (mod hide & seek + ???). You're very literally complaining about extra content and how it is labeled. If you have actual suggestions for events (hey, your PvE suggestion is a thing!) then please do post them but complaining is a bad jumping off point for that.

There's also the fact that your initial presumption, that community events exist solely to better the community, is just plain wrong. Why can't events just be fun? Why does that not help better the community anyway?

Naraka00 · Aug 4, 2016

That quest with the lost soul on the canion...

I've tried to help people going from Cinfras to Rodoroc... Needless to say it took me a whole afternoon until I found the gate that connects to the rest of the canyon... And now it's an NPC... It's gonna be lovely I bet xD

But there are more high level quests than I expected, so yay to the CT team :D

Also this changeblog was posted a lot closer to the previous one, so the update might be near :3

pretzellover33 · Aug 4, 2016

KettleKorn said: ↑

When is the update going to take effect?
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In 2 millenia weeks, approximately

judging by how the changeblogs come out once a week, and that i think there will be only one more changeblog

FlamingPinecone · Aug 4, 2016

Severe lack of quests? This isn't a sever lack of quests! This is fucking awesome!
This update may be better than Gavel in my opinion!

And yes... ??? HAS GONE FROM THE DUMBEST TO THE COOLEST QUEST IN THE GAME

meme land confirmed
hypeomfgimdying

Selvut283 · Aug 4, 2016

Grian said: ↑

Lore :

There have been a few secret rooms added to the map that contain lore.

Added some flavour-text NPC's who will talk to you in towns and offer you citizen based lore about the areas. Due to the limitations of the quest system, these will appear as "Quest NPC's" We will hopefully change that in the future.
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Actually, if I can spoil this now, the "Quest" part of the NPC's names have been removed. So, you don't have to hope anymore!

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