1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
Dismiss Notice
Wynncraft, the Minecraft MMORPG. Play it now on your Minecraft client at (IP): play.wynncraft.com. No mods required! Click here for more info...

WTF happened to infused hive weapons

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by LifeInABoxes, Jul 22, 2021.

?

Are you excited to see upcoming Tokyo Olympic 2020?

  1. Yes

    37.8%
  2. No

    48.6%
  3. stop political polls(I didn't mean that but)

    13.5%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. LifeInABoxes

    LifeInABoxes Skilled Adventurer

    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Compare stats of infused hive weapons and bob's mythic weapons
    1.20.3 patch and nerf to end-game weapons gone too far
     
  2. weeb

    weeb CHAMPION

    Messages:
    4,957
    Likes Received:
    5,027
    Trophy Points:
    194
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    items got changed to account for the str/dex changes which increase dmg
     
    ThedumbOX and LifeInABoxes like this.
  3. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

    Messages:
    3,062
    Likes Received:
    6,051
    Trophy Points:
    217
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    All items had a universal increase in damage.
    This is because strength and dexterity do more now.
    The effective damage due to this is either the same, if you use just strength or dexterity, higher if you use both, or lower if you don't use strength or dex.
     
  4. LifeInABoxes

    LifeInABoxes Skilled Adventurer

    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    28
    In terms of DPS, Bob's mythic weapons exceed Infused hive weapons
     
  5. highbread

    highbread highbread HERO

    Messages:
    1,592
    Likes Received:
    10,757
    Trophy Points:
    164
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    they do not. how did you get this information?
     
  6. creature

    creature Uncorrupt, so possibly serving Dern VIP

    Messages:
    797
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    Trophy Points:
    148
    Minecraft:
    This is only if you don't powder them (which is a big deal since the hive weapons are all fast attack speed weapons with 5 powder slots and +20% elemental damage on an otherwise neutral damage weapon). And if you already have alot of str/dex the +10 points from bob's mythics will not be enough to make them better anymore. So in an actual build this will never be the case.

    Having said that, I agree that the hive weapons could use a buff, since I can't see myself ever using any of them as they are right now.
    ________________________________
    They kinda do
    upload_2021-7-22_23-59-33.png
    this is bob's mythic wand

    upload_2021-7-23_0-0-11.png
    this is infused hive wand.

    This pattern can be seen with the dagger, bow, and spear too.

    It's majorly skewed in favor of bob's mythics because +10 str/dex and +melee% is calculated in wynndata but empty powder slots and elemental damage% on non-powdered hive isn't. But they do have a point.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2021
    Druser and LifeInABoxes like this.
  7. highbread

    highbread highbread HERO

    Messages:
    1,592
    Likes Received:
    10,757
    Trophy Points:
    164
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    was referring to base dps in my message rather than melee dps alone
     
    LifeInABoxes likes this.
  8. NamesAreHard

    NamesAreHard Mage Enthusiast (She/He/They) CHAMPION

    Messages:
    1,429
    Likes Received:
    2,444
    Trophy Points:
    153
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    Infused Hive Wand powdered with all T6 thunder's has a ratio of 500, and Bob's Mythic with all T6 thunders has ~386.5. The lowest postpowder damage ratio of a commonly used endgame wand that comes close is Nepta Floodbringer (w6w6) with 430. Is Bob's Mythic _____ overtuned compared to other options? Maybe. But it does not have higher damage.
     
    LifeInABoxes likes this.
  9. creature

    creature Uncorrupt, so possibly serving Dern VIP

    Messages:
    797
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    Trophy Points:
    148
    Minecraft:
    The same things I said go for spell DPS, it's not just melee DPS alone.

    yeah filtering damages x attack speed makes the hive weapons come on top, but it's important to understand where they're coming from, and looking at the melee DPS in wynndata/wynnbuilder is a common way to find out DPS. It's more accurate than filtering for damages x attack speed because it includes the identifications. Which are important for the DPS. If you didn't do this, something like the Gert Bangswing Manypointystick would be the second highest DPS weapon in the game and The nothing would only be slightly better than depressing weapons.
    This doesn't account for powders, which are very important in this case, so I agree that hive weapons should come on top.
     
    LifeInABoxes likes this.
  10. bearveryeayay

    bearveryeayay Skilled Adventurer

    Messages:
    125
    Likes Received:
    51
    Trophy Points:
    39
    Minecraft:
    "Are you excited to see upcoming Tokyo Olympic 2020?"

    Idk man seems a bit far off in the future
     
  11. Toaster

    Toaster He/Him CHAMPION

    Messages:
    340
    Likes Received:
    249
    Trophy Points:
    72
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    i clicked on this thread hoping it was about old hive weapons and was really excited for a minute
    hive weaps used to have 2mr/ms (changed in 1.19), way better base damage (changed in 1.17.9 & 1.18), and actually contend with hive armors and accessories
    but no, god forbid there be any good options for spell warrior without mythics (crafteds have kind of changed this though, but shouldn't be necessary)
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.