WTF happened to infused hive weapons

Compare stats of infused hive weapons and bob's mythic weapons
1.20.3 patch and nerf to end-game weapons gone too far

 

items got changed to account for the str/dex changes which increase dmg

 

All items had a universal increase in damage.
This is because strength and dexterity do more now.
The effective damage due to this is either the same, if you use just strength or dexterity, higher if you use both, or lower if you don't use strength or dex.

 

In terms of DPS, Bob's mythic weapons exceed Infused hive weapons

 

they do not. how did you get this information?

 

This is only if you don't powder them (which is a big deal since the hive weapons are all fast attack speed weapons with 5 powder slots and +20% elemental damage on an otherwise neutral damage weapon). And if you already have alot of str/dex the +10 points from bob's mythics will not be enough to make them better anymore. So in an actual build this will never be the case.

Having said that, I agree that the hive weapons could use a buff, since I can't see myself ever using any of them as they are right now.

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They kinda do

this is bob's mythic wand


this is infused hive wand.

This pattern can be seen with the dagger, bow, and spear too.

It's majorly skewed in favor of bob's mythics because +10 str/dex and +melee% is calculated in wynndata but empty powder slots and elemental damage% on non-powdered hive isn't. But they do have a point.

 

was referring to base dps in my message rather than melee dps alone

 

Infused Hive Wand powdered with all T6 thunder's has a ratio of 500, and Bob's Mythic with all T6 thunders has ~386.5. The lowest postpowder damage ratio of a commonly used endgame wand that comes close is Nepta Floodbringer (w6w6) with 430. Is Bob's Mythic _____ overtuned compared to other options? Maybe. But it does not have higher damage.

 

The same things I said go for spell DPS, it's not just melee DPS alone.

yeah filtering damages x attack speed makes the hive weapons come on top, but it's important to understand where they're coming from, and looking at the melee DPS in wynndata/wynnbuilder is a common way to find out DPS. It's more accurate than filtering for damages x attack speed because it includes the identifications. Which are important for the DPS. If you didn't do this, something like the Gert Bangswing Manypointystick would be the second highest DPS weapon in the game and The nothing would only be slightly better than depressing weapons.
This doesn't account for powders, which are very important in this case, so I agree that hive weapons should come on top.

 

"Are you excited to see upcoming Tokyo Olympic 2020?"

Idk man seems a bit far off in the future

 

i clicked on this thread hoping it was about old hive weapons and was really excited for a minute
hive weaps used to have 2mr/ms (changed in 1.19), way better base damage (changed in 1.17.9 & 1.18), and actually contend with hive armors and accessories
but no, god forbid there be any good options for spell warrior without mythics (crafteds have kind of changed this though, but shouldn't be necessary)