Why Do People Hate Sword Art Online?

Ah, I gotcha. Guts just seemed like a brute with no interest in anything besides fighting. And yeah, I get the whole significance of the scene, it’s just that I preferred to have more action since it does action the best. I’m in the middle of the third right now, so I’ll tell you what I think of it in a bit.

 

lol yea
imo the second movie has the best action scenes
hundred man slaughter and battle for doldrey were

hmm i suppose movies dont do that well of a job portraying him then :\
idk i havent watched them in a while lol
but like in the manga you see his character change a lot
like from the beginning in the black swordsman arc he's like a big ass dick who dont gaf who gets killed, to golden age in the band of the hawk where in the beginning he's all antisocial (and theres a backstory for that too) but then he begins to open up and rly be friends and comrades and stuff, to the events of the third movie (no spoilers) and then more stuff happens later on lol
but basically guts is more than just a mindless sword swinging brute xd

 

I now understand why it got rated 2 stars... This was just... unbelievably horrible. Everything just seemed to figuratively explode and throw away everything that made the first movie good. Just... why? I take back what I said earlier; this movie was the most disgusting thing I’ve seen in my life!

All of the characters are either killed off, or are hollow shells of what they were. Griffith is literally now the devil, and not only did he kill all of his friends in the worst way possible, but he brutally raped the only strong female character in the whole show and his long time fighting partner. Not to mention he brought eternal hell to earth just for power...

Now Casca is just deranged and the opposite of her character, and everything is just shit. The 3rd movie went WAY overboard, had no purpose, and completely killed the other 2 movies. It did such a good job of that I don’t want to watch anymore of this series. I’m sorry WynnChairman, but I can’t stand anymore crazy sex scenes or absurd violence like this. It’s just not entertaining to watch it. I haven’t felt more uncomfortable watching something for awhile. And I don’t take fiction seriously either. I think I’m going to wait a bit before I get back to Anime. It’s mostly because of school and jobs and Composition projects coming up that I need to study.

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Overall, I’d rate the 3 movies separately. The first movie was fantastic, the second was decent (minus the sex scene), and the third was awful.

 

hmm well if you treat it as a three movie triology sure its not great, but thing is the story still continues, like it keeps going right after the end of the third movie. it would a horrible way to end the story, but it doesnt actually end there. its barely even the beginning of the whole story. the movies end off at about chapter like 80-100 or smth in the 350+ and ongoing manga. it seems like they killed off a bunch of important characters, but in the grand scheme of things they're rly not even that important, yet they're still rly memorable and real to the reader/watcher as well as on guts. their deaths are rly impactful and you actually care about them. although i can agree the sex scenes dont have to be so graphic, they all serve a purpose in the story, nothing is wasted.

about griffith killing all his friends, cant rly ask everyone to understand, but if you rly listen to what (idr their names conrad or ubik) said they rly bring out griffith's inner character, sort of like the three witches and macbeth. he is ambitious, and would give anything, anything for his ultimate goal. its pretty twisted but they basically manipulate griffith into sacrificing all his comrades like cuz if he doesnt, all those who previously died under his dream would be for nothing. welp its rly some pretty deep shit and honestly i cant rly blame you if you dislike it.

however, again, this is only one arc out of like 5 or 6, so you shouldnt judge a whole story based on basically a few chapters
i would recomend at least reading the manga from the golden age arc (chapter 1), first so you can see what all you missed and second cuz i think from a narative standpoint the manga rly is the best way to go about it. also you already know where the sex scenes are at so you can just skip them lol, although i wouldnt blame you if you dont want to

anyway i just hope you dont end up hating berserk or anime in general just based on this, because honestly it really, really is a great story
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lol xd

 

I get what you’re trying to say, but I can’t stand anymore of those nudity/sex scenes. Sure, I could just skip them, but then it’ll get annoying after a bit. I don’t really hate the show or anime, I just don’t find it entertaining.

I understood why Griffith killed his friends for power, but the whole premise of him becoming the literal devil completely kills his character. Characters should have flaws, but by making him unchangeable, you basically erased all conflict in him. Now he’s just going to be a generic satin character for Guts to fight.

Speaking of Guts, remember when he was conflicted about killing a kid and brought the whole premise of the show into question? Well Griffith becoming the devil throws that all out because he’s pure evil and therefore it’s totally ok to fight him. I would be surprised if Guts thinks Griffith is redeemable somehow, but if he did it would feel so forced.

Besides that, the series to me seems like a shit sandwich. Sure the story as a whole might not be bad, but the third movie crossed the line by a mile and changed the premise of the series. I just don’t like the premise of Guts fighting hellish monsters while witnessing more rape and sex scenes. Even if the worst the new/old stuff did was a quarter of what the third movie did, I’d still be uninterested. Simply put, I don’t have any interest in the show anymore, even if there are other characters.

I’m sorry if I made you feel bad about recommending it to me. It’s just that these are my honest feelings about it, and I’ve never felt this way towards anything b4.

 

welp thats understandable xd

based on what you've seen, i get why you would think that, but i guess the problem with the movies is that, again, it only shows one arc of the story, and its neither the first nor the last, so i guess it is kinda confusing, but the story isnt rly about griffith, its always been about guts. although he may seem to be simply a big ass demon for guts to inevitably gut (kill me xD) you have to remember, his goal is to gain his own kingdom, which he would do anything to have, including obviously sacrificing his friends. if you think about it, this really isnt out of character for griffith at all. he prostituted himself to some old pedo for some cash, which would bring him one step closer to his goal. at the battle of doldrey, he had his men backed against the river so that they would fight harder as there was no other way they could survive. in the manga (not sure if it was in the movie or not),

Spoiler

he risks poisoning himself to death to off the queen and ministers who were plotting against him

basically there was nothing he wouldnt do/risk to achieve his desires. to griffith, the eclipse is just another step on his road to get his own kingdom

well again, problem is you started out with the movies :\

Spoiler

in the manga, the first arc is the black swordsman arc, which shows guts going around killing apostles (the monsters) while having (seemingly) no concern for collateral damage. in this arc, griffith is already femto, and the golden age arc is pretty much jsut a backstory for the series. also, it more depicts guts's journey and his own character development. in the blackswordsman arc he is nihilistic asf and pretty much has no regard for anything and has a great hatred for apostles, which is all explained in the golden age arc. guts's friends were slaughtered, his best friend being the one who ordered it, and his girl got raped :I. he's on a vigorous journey of vengeance for the events of the eclipse. however, in the tower of conviction arc, he returns to rickert's hut and discovers that casca is gone and the rest of the arc is basically him looking for her, as well as developing lady farnesse and serpico's characters. at the end of it tho, griffith is reincarnated into the world in his (naked) human form, and guts with casca in his arms, has to decide whether to pursue his goal of revenge or to protect the one he cares most about. there is not not a lot of nudity and stuff, but the story jsut goes rly far beyond all that xd

spoilers so :/

Spoiler

while guts doesnt necessarily think griffith is redeemable, he doesnt chase after him as he did in the black swordsman arc. as i said before, after the tower of conviction arc, gut's primary motive becomes to protect casca (and eventually restore her mind) rather than getting revenge on griffith. he lets go of his hatred for griffith, and in the latest chapters talks about him without feeling (or visibly expressing) any hatred, and even seems to show some lingering admiration for him. its not forced because he'd found another goal in life, to restore casca back to the way she was, and this lets him not think about griffith and what he'd done. also btw when guts killed the kid he was mostly conflicted because the kid reminded him of himself kinda, with abusive father and all

anyway if you just decide berserk isnt your cup of tea, cant rly blame you lol
just dont want u to think the whole series is just about people getting chopped in half and demon porn >.<

 

Yeah, it’s just not my cup of tea. If it didn’t have that sex scene at the end of 2 and the hell scene in 3 then it would be different. But since they are vital to the whole series, there wouldn’t be much you could do about it without changing the whole premise.

Overall, it’s jusf too graphic for my tastes. It feels like a good series that got wrapped with Where the Dead Go to Die.

 

still a gud series tho xD

 

I just realized Cory in the House isn’t an actual anime.... I thought it was something else that went by the same name... God I feel stupid >-<

 

whatcha mean, Cory in the House is one of the best anime out there xD