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Media Whats The Best #1 Non Mythic Item In Wynn

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Spyhy, Nov 18, 2020.

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Which is better?

  1. Suppression

    8 vote(s)
    8.5%
  2. Gale's sight

    4 vote(s)
    4.3%
  3. Nighthawk

    32 vote(s)
    34.0%
  4. Rainbow Sanctuary

    7 vote(s)
    7.4%
  5. Deye Bow

    3 vote(s)
    3.2%
  6. Draoi

    18 vote(s)
    19.1%
  7. Old Kepper's ring

    12 vote(s)
    12.8%
  8. Intensity

    8 vote(s)
    8.5%
  9. Hephaestus-Forged sabatons

    2 vote(s)
    2.1%
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  1. Spyhy

    Spyhy Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Suppression is one of the best non mythic items because not only does it give an insane 3 mana regen (which is a lot in general but keep in mind Suppression is a Ring.), it also has no stat requirements at all, making it very strong and flexible because you can even equip 2 Suppression at the same time or just use 1 supression with another Ring. Currently a good suppression (3mr) costs around 16-22 le.

    But now with the new update, as some of you already know a very powerful helmet will come out. Gale's sight. The Helmet will give a -2 to 4 2nd spell cost. This is insane. Being able to tp 4 times for basically free makes lootruns extremely fast and efficient. Especially Fatals will become better since now you can tp 8-11 times without having to use ice snake. Also you can always use mana potions you get from chests to quickly regen mana. This will get fatal even closer to the efficiency of warp.

    If you have other items you think are better than both of these pls tell me, I'll add them to the poll
    Edit:
    Night hawk: Good stats, Major id is most important
    Deye Bow: Huge neutral dmg. Major id same as hawkeye
    Old keepers ring: Major id op, 15% hp rgn for every emerald you pick up
    Rainbow sanc: best pants for rainbow sets
    Draoi: Ring, it gives -1 st spell cost, you can also equip 2 of them for -2 1st spell
    Internsity: % spell dmg and 15% dmg on all elements with no stat req
    Hephaestus-Forged sabatons: multiple elemntal dmg, 5400 hp, 4 ms, -40% 3rd spell cost

    what should be the last thing I put on the poll?
    Moon pool circlet
    Orange lily
    Ornate gear
    The Nothing
     
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  2. IceBear

    IceBear Ice Bear says hi VIP+

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    Ice Bear says suppression isn't used too often in builds because usually with the negative mana steal its a net gain of 0, Ice Bear says also probably night hawk or other armor pieces would be more powerful.
     
  3. 1+1=3

    1+1=3 LegoBoyWelly HERO

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    haha draoi
    Deye bracelet too
    Okr Slap
    Deadeye at level
    Dragon dance
    rainbow sanc
    and a bunch more weapons
     
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    thepicferret Send help wynncraft addicted HERO

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    Like one of the at least 5 lunar spines everyone should have
     
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    MlecznyHuxel99 Fruman walls guy VIP+

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  6. Qzphs

    Qzphs double mythic mana throttler VIP

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    suppression seems strong for having 3mr on paper but in practice it competes for ring slots against intensity, draoi fair, mpc and okr, all of which being either top tier or a candidate for #1 non-mythic. it's not as strong in relation to options you could run over it.
     
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    4Shady2Me Skilled Adventurer

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    T12 Fishing rod
     
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    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    Oh you don't know what the most powerful weapon in Wynncraft is, none of you do...


    It's not even a mythic


    It's... very sad...


    It's...


    a Depressing Spear!
     
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    Samsam101 These shitposts are Pissing me off. CHAMPION

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    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    why is intensity an option again
     
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    williamszr98 Cyberpunk 2077 have less bugs than this update VIP+

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    as a collapse user rainbow sanc will always have a place in my heart
     
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    yeah i didn't mean to promote intensity, it shouldn't be an option
    ppl be getting carried away
     
  15. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    Tbh Nighthawk is currently the most broken item in game overall by far. It's capable of turning bad builds into unstoppable killing machine that hardly need any skill.
    (Personally I'm hoping for -50% dmg reduction)
     
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    Qzphs double mythic mana throttler VIP

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    hawkye nerf and raw sd nerf already incoming, again imo ppl are getting carried away when they suggest drastic measures like -50%
     
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  17. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    -50% is perfectly fine since Nighthawk: 1. removes the danger factor from the insane dmg of arrowstorm into enemy's face. 2. basicly makes Bomb useless and combo'ing raw first spell is so easy that you can achieve ungodly amounts of dmg for small amounts of mana. If a bad nighthawk build averages at 25-35k per arrowstorm 15-20k spells which can be used VERY rapidly would simply be fine as it should be. It is a helmet without ANY requirments and fairly good amount of health for its use.
    EDIT: 3. Oh yes I almost forgot to tell how ridiculous the time of nighthawk arrowstorm is compared to the normal one.
    EDIT2: Or just add reqs and make heath more - that would be pretty cool.
     
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  18. Qzphs

    Qzphs double mythic mana throttler VIP

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    more of a testament to draoi, since it's basically the only source of this raw first spell you speak of

    what are you trying to say?

    limiting it to specific archetypes won't resolve its power issue
    it's only going to create large viability gaps between the archetypes

    you need to build more mana to make use of the faster arrow storm casts

    firstly i think you're going way over the top by proposing a further -50% on top of the already confirmed changes to nighthawk.

    secondly i think that the item team's proposal is independently better than yours.

    i get hawkeye is op currently but you have to keep in mind that you're necessarily forgoing a strong helmet alternative like aphotic, cumulonimbus, sizzling shawl, or unravel by opting for nighthawk, all of which scale far better with archer's naturally high base damage and secondly ease options elsewhere via useful ids like sp or a lack of -thunder defense.

    nighthawk seems strong alone but you're forgetting that other helmets are similarly powerful as well (see my argument regarding suppression above).

    post-patch rainsanc freedom is the best example of this: you'll find that nighthawk is difficult to squeeze in without making fundamental compromises, equating to at least 3k losses in bomb damage. after losing the range advantage, 20% storm damage, and paying the id price on top of that, you're left with a nighthawk variant which cannot be definitively said to be op.

    edit: i forgot about memento since i play positive ls archer, but it stands that you tend to lose a decent chunk of stats off of using nighthawk over a superior statwise choice.
     
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  19. Arkade

    Arkade Who am I? CHAMPION

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    What are the confirmed changes exactly? The nerf they previously announced as big was merely -1 raw.
    Also you just can't prove that this isn't infinitely better than the stardust variation.
     
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  20. Qzphs

    Qzphs double mythic mana throttler VIP

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    -1 raw is indeed big. like i said, draoi is the only reasonable source of -1st spell cost
    i already quoted hawkeye changes to you; nighthawk is losing 90rsd on top of it
     
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