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What Would You Make The Theme Of 1.21

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Boblipk, Dec 4, 2020.

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  1. ditsario

    ditsario it's always christmas somewhere in the world VIP+

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    Hmmmmm. I suppose technically we shouldn't be able to remember any non-negative characteristics of it, so no. But I'd say it could work so long as we all forget everything else about 1.21 pretty soon after we're told.
     
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  2. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Also, the designation of SCP-055 is not "SCP-055", because we remember it, lol.
     
  3. hmtn

    hmtn Archivist of the Realm VIP+

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    1.21 Changelog:
    - Reverted to old Mt. Wynn (but with spiders, and the new parkour segment replacing the Gullum fight) for the quest Arachnid's Ascent
    - Made Fruma guards hostile
     
  4. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    I am also an Archer main. Archer is a very boring class with no fun and unique spells other than Arrow Shield. It’s all just firing arrows
     
  5. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    how the hell has nobody said storyline update
    it would:
    -give us more characters
    -make grinding seem less annoying by adding story quests for levels without quests
    -update the lore
     
  6. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    You do not count

    Escape maybe? Also this class is unique because it is the only one based on reality
     
  7. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    Shamans, Warriors, and Assassins exist.
    Mages probably don't though.
     
  8. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Shamans that can do what we can do.
    Warriors cam throw enemy 6 meters imto the air? Or use charge?
    Assassins can surely just do one spin and get rid of their illnesses or just vanish
     
  9. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    There’s already so many quests and dungeons in game.
     
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  10. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    While I think it would be great for there to be a few more endgame dungeon (beyond the obvious ones), I think having an update just for those and new quests would be awful. If they're going to do any major update based on quests, it would nice if they remade all the old ones to bring them up to snuff, especially Wynn A-D, it's weird that the first (sort of) quest line is so out of place from the normal standard. Those could really use a remake along with basically any quest which still uses armor stands in place of player models.
     
  11. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    Yes, yes.
    I was commenting that most classes exist (or used to) irl.
    Also, can archers shoot 60 arrows almost instantaneously?
    Can they jump really high backwards and get faster after doing so?
    Can they shoot bouncy bombs?
    Do they have infinite arrows and no quiver?
    Can they make arrows swirl around them?

    I don't think that Archer is any more real than the others.
     
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  12. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    I was thinking more so along this update: multiplayer and repeatable content that offers unique gameplay like housing, raids, and a guild rework. I’m not quite sure where to go beyond that besides PvP. It would be nice though to have Fruma and Dern of course too.
     
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  13. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    I completely agree, I guess I was just trying to take the pitch and turn it into something that would be better. If I had to make a real pitch, it would probably be a giant balance and QoL patch to make the game more suited for stuff like PVP and mutiplayer content. I think the biggest issue I have with multiplayer content in Wynn is that there isn't any form of in game matchmaking, to be fair it hasn't been needed so far but I think with raids and eventually arena style PVP games it's going to be a really needed QoL feature.

    I also want to see a combat overhaul where DPS and armor are put more in line with each other so PVP can actually work. While I think PVP could be a blast, in a game where you can easily hit 20K DPS and most players have around 15K health, PVP is just so pointless. That one guy had the PVP suggestion a while ago where he pitched a bunch of balance changes and hard nerfs to PVP to make it work, and while it was good, I think the better response to the issue would be to just fix the system which is broken in the first place by either making mobs do more damage and giving the player more health or by making the player do less damage and lowering the health of most mobs. Basically, I don't really want PVP content until they fix the underlying issues that were made apparent by how bad Hunted turned out to be.

    I also want to see a complete overhaul of the armor system because the current system is so, so unintuitive but that's never going to happen so I guess I'll leave it at that.
     
  14. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    See the problem with PvP, especially in MMOs, is that it’s nearly impossible to have both good PvP and PvE. I’ve even seen AAA games like Destiny struggle to have both too because how of fundamentally different PvE is to PvP. Like how some of the best weapons in Destiny were nerfed because of their use in PvP, which made them worth a lot less in PvE unintentionally. It’s the reason why games, including Wynncraft at one point, resort to having separate item systems for PvP and PvE instead of merging them. Though this too comes with the drawback of having a more complicated item system and having to maintain 2 at once.

    I do admit I’m biased against PvP since I have never gotten into it.
     
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    They can be quite fast
    Obviously somewhat overexaggerated
    Of course they wouldn't bounce irl but bomb arrows could exist
     
  16. dr_carlos

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    So holding a bow magically makes you super fast.
    Somewhat overexaggerated? What is?
    Ah yes, an arrow whose tip somehow explodes on landing but doesn't whilst in the quiver (which doesn't exist in Wynncraft if you didn't know).

    I still don't see how Archer is based on reality and the other classes aren't, in fact, I would say that none of the Wynncraft classes are realistic at all.
     
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    Ok, "Archer is more based on reality than other classes" that could be accepted by both sides.
     
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    Okay, probably.
    But it still isn't really based on reality, rather it is inspired by reality.
     
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    Accepted
     
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