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SPOILER What Is The Eye's Part In Human History, And What Is His Part In The Future?

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Dohdo, Aug 10, 2017.

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  1. TimeMC

    TimeMC Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    hello your friendly iboju warrior is here
     
  2. Chigo_

    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA CHAMPION

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    builders aren't told anything lore wise they are just told to build in certain area's.
     
  3. Sonick

    Sonick Post Anarcho-Eco-Fascist Anti-Centrist

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    That's what the system wants you to think. Wake up sheeple
     
  4. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Why do we think humans originated from dern/fruma?
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    Also @captainganon lore wise the corruption started when the realm of light and realm of darkness touched this creating the corruption and the portal in the roots of corruption
     
  5. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    i'd be willing to believe you if an alternative "realm of darkness" exists, if there's any lore directly stating that past what's in WynnEx D, or if there's any source for it creating the portal (which as far as i remember was uncovered in a mining operation, and that's about it for it's origins)

    although, to be fair, it is said that corruption follows where influence between light and dark touch, which could mean that the overworld and the nether are basically mini-versions of light and dark, but there's not much to go off of

    either way, the corruption did still begin when the portal came into contact with the overworld. What caused that contact or what created the portal and whatnot is up for debate. But then again, corruption begins when light and dark meet through "influence," not directly (again, unless there's more direct lore about this past WynnEx D)

    there's some back and forth in this post so tl;dr unless there's more lore it's essentially still the portal that's creating the corruption
     
  6. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Yea, that party of the lore needs some tunning
     
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    Toasted Asian Toasty VIP+

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    What is this eye thing everyone's talking about? Im haft been up to lore since gavel.
     
  8. Flare2B

    Flare2B What if? VIP+

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    That's actually correct, we don't really know anything about the lore.
     
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  9. Dohdo

    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    I was talking about the Ancients in Wynn Ex D. The "indians" are the Iboju dudes, but the natives from Rymek were'nt being mentioned, allthough they fall under the same category.

    I believe the Iboju's and the Rymek indians are just unadvanced people from Fruma who descender from the ones who first came from Fruma, around a thousand years ago
     
  10. BethJerry

    BethJerry BFG 9000 CHAMPION

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    The signs that talk about it are in the secret house in the ancient city in WynnD. Some of the signs require a button to open a doorway to get to, but finding them shouldn't be difficult. There's also a thread about it, but I don't think it's 100% complete, or at least not the one I found.

    Everything I've talked about is fact, if you take your time and read all of the lore they've given in lore heavy quests related to your theory, you would see the flaws in it. The darkness "stopping" at the crystals means literally nothing, it just so happens that it seems to have stopped because of them. The crystals are presumably the power of light and dark, harnessed by the ancients, not a barrier stopping the Darkness from invading Wynn.

    Ever since the event that caused the corruption 1000 years ago, the Light has been seemingly weakened. Did you ever think that the Darkness might have been weakened too, and that's why there hasn't been major activity from the Darkness in Wynn?
     
  11. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    can anyone answer this?
     
  12. Dohdo

    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    Ive seen the signs, just not that specific sign
     
  13. BethJerry

    BethJerry BFG 9000 CHAMPION

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    We "think" they originate from Fruma because the hidden library in Llevigar says, word for word, "The Fruma province is the homeland of Humans."
     
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    ISpeakDylanish Travelled Adventurer

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    YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
     
  15. Rimuwu

    Rimuwu Nyah HERO

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    Does that automatically exclude the possibility of Humans originating from elsewhere?
    I mean, one considers Fruma as the homeland of humans, but that doens't mean they all must have been born there. Homeland could also mean they once fled to Fruma and live there since some decades, making it their "homeland", the place they live in and where most of the population is human. Perhaps, they came from somewhere else but went to fruma, lived there for a couple of years, and the current generation calls it their homeland.
     
  16. BethJerry

    BethJerry BFG 9000 CHAMPION

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    Yeah, but if the humans came from elsewhere, where else would it have been?

    They couldn't have originated from Gavel, as that's the Villagers homeland.

    (this is kinda going out on a limb here) They couldn't have originated from Dern, because in the Realm of Light quest, one of the Heliolux says "I sense that your species is somewhere in the middle. Whose side are you on?" This rules out Dern, as if we originated from Dern I don't think our species would be considered in "the middle" of whatever war is going on between Light and Dark.

    This leaves Fruma, where it makes the most sense lore-wise for the humans to have originated from. Unless there's some other province out there that we don't know about for some reason, or some more land behind the Mountains that makes up the border of the map, humans originate from Fruma.

    I said this before about the desert, and this applies to this too in a fashion. There isn't enough information to make a theory about where humans originated from. Partly because there's literally nothing to suggest they came from somewhere else, and partly because it states in the Llevigar library that we came from Fruma. Making a theory that the humans came from elsewhere is going to have far to0 many leaps of logic to be viable, and far too many made-up scenarios to be considered plausible.
     
  17. Rimuwu

    Rimuwu Nyah HERO

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    True, yet there is no such proof that these are the only places existing. Perhaps, there are other provinces just not accessable by players. There is no proof that other provinces next to Dern, Fruma, (Corkus), Gavel and Wynn exist, making it only an assumption, but not impossible to be true. It's fair to assume humans have always lived in Fruma, as well as assuming the opposite, since we need a bit more information about Fruma. Perhaps future updates will tell?
     
  18. TwageTomato

    TwageTomato Coder | Like-Giver | Tomato | Musician CHAMPION

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    As shown by the fact that the Dark Wizard class exists
     
  19. BethJerry

    BethJerry BFG 9000 CHAMPION

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    That's just it. Back when Gavel wasn't a thing, the only provinces we knew about was Wynn, Gavel, and Dern. We had no idea that Fruma would even exist, and since there was nothing explaining how we got to Wynn, any theory made could technically have been plausible, since there was nothing to tell us whether or not the theory was right or wrong, because there was literally nothing there.

    Yes, there could be land beyond the mountains that we don't know about, there could be more provinces that we don't know about yet, and there could be another place where the humans came from. But any theory made about anything previously stated hinges solely on the fact that we know literally nothing about what lies beyond the mountains, with the exception of Fruma and Dern, because they haven't been made yet.

    I get what you're trying to say, that since we don't know what's behind the mountains, maybe there's more land. Maybe there's more provinces that just haven't been introduced into the lore yet. Like you said, perhaps future updates will tell, but until those theoretical provinces or extra land is introduced into the lore, theories just shouldn't be made about more land/provinces being past the mountains.
     
  20. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Until someone made a theory, and we were told there were more provinces than just those 3. But I see your point

    Good point. I thought this at first, but after the Llevigar library I dismissed it. Could be
     
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