Weekly Community Discussion (11/10/2019) - Tiers And Mana

BqwaOLD · Nov 6, 2019

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Hey there guys! Today we’re going on to our third weekly discussion about particular topics relating to items, ingredients and gameplay. We want to emphasize this won’t be a one-sided conversation but rather a constructive discussion between the community and the item team. We’ll be sure to keep up with your guys’ posts and respond regularly. As mentioned on our thread here, we’ll be doing this weekly but if there is enough interest and conversation ongoing as the week draws to a close, we’ll roll it over to the next week. If not, this thread will be locked and we’ll move onto a new discussion.

For reference, the previous thread’s discussion was on Set Item Changes, and can be found here.

This Week’s Topic: Attack Speed Tiers and Mana

Unlike the previous two discussion threads, this one is an overflow from the previous thread, where the discussion evolved away from the topic and into this.

Last week’s thread saw heated discussion over attack speed as a reaction to one of the set changes. With the value of a tier of attack speed under question, we have decided to get a conclusive answer with help from the community in order to properly balance sensitive identifications like attack speed tiers later on in the future. We also want to do the same with balancing mana, as the previous attempt to balance mana in the element revamp was quite unpopular, yet we feel it's a sensitive topic that needs to be addressed, given how mana is a very dominant identification that affects how players make spell-oriented builds. Unlike the other two topics, this discussion does not revolve around any changes we have specifically planned. Also note that the ideas that blossom out of this discussion will be applied to ingredients later down the line.

How do you feel about our current approach to balance attack speed and mana at the moment? Do you feel that some controversial items with these IDs were simply flukes, or do you think there is anything that needs to be adjusted to our balance philosophy around attack speed and mana?

With that being said, by releasing this thread we will be actively listening to what the community has to say about this topic, and we will all go from there.

Thank you for reading,

The Item Team

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A way Mana steal could be buffed is to allow other mobs, most specifically the ones with spells, and give them a 'mana' bar. The stealing could actually take the Mana from the mobs and prevent it from casting spells. This would be helpful against spell-spam bosses and such. This might take a decent amount of time to put this in-game, but hey; if you want it fixed, there's an idea :)

JaydonTheWarrior · Nov 6, 2019

How come no ones brought up what they originally did with mana.
I kinda liked what they were going for, that is, to make every build have some form of mana regen/steal, instead of it being an intelligence limited stat.
I personally liked the idea, though I don't think it was executed well enough.
It felt like intelligence still had all the mana regen, but it simply had less overall.
Rainbow was lacking in any mana stat at all, and mana steal isn't strong enough to compete with mana regen.

Major_Lue · Dec 27, 2019

Alright! It's Friday again so we're going to be locking this thread and moving onto a new topic. You'll still be able to view this thread, its content and its replies by following the link on our main thread here where we'll keep a list updated with every weekly discussion thread. We appreciate all of the responses and discussions this week and hope to see you guys on this week's thread here.

Cheers =)
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Toy__ · Dec 27, 2019

Major_Lue said: ↑

Alright! It's Friday again so we're going to be locking this thread and moving onto a new topic. You'll still be able to view this thread, its content and its replies by following the link on our main thread here where we'll keep a list updated with every weekly discussion thread. We appreciate all of the responses and discussions this week and hope to see you guys on this week's thread here.

Cheers =)
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Since when can mayo jar lock threads?

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Weekly Community Discussion (11/10/2019) - Tiers And Mana

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