1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
Dismiss Notice
Wynncraft, the Minecraft MMORPG. Play it now on your Minecraft client at (IP): play.wynncraft.com. No mods required! Click here for more info...

Warrior/Knight Help Warrior Sucks In Guild Wars And You Can't Prove Me Wrong

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Lego_DW, May 15, 2018.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Lego_DW

    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

    Messages:
    1,266
    Likes Received:
    2,537
    Trophy Points:
    164
    Minecraft:
    just tried warrior is a real war and got timed out

    warrior is terrible
     
    Dinner likes this.
  2. Wynn: The Anime

    Wynn: The Anime Does not like anime VIP+

    Messages:
    872
    Likes Received:
    1,717
    Trophy Points:
    148
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    Some alkatrash builds that maybe? can solo not tested lmao

    https://wynndata.tk/s/zjKJNe
    Shit dps for alka (still better than average apoc lol) negative defences and mediocre life steal. However very good def to keep it alive and uses Rekkr so it is automatically a good build
    (Could outlast mobs?)
    https://wynndata.tk/s/YdCfN4
    Little agi/def points lmao but better ls, no negative defences (if you get good gambler rolls) and decent dps
    (Maybe enough to kill them before they kill you?)

    Only theories but it's not apoc ;]
     
    Lego_DW likes this.
  3. Aya

    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist HERO

    Messages:
    5,142
    Likes Received:
    7,875
    Trophy Points:
    217
    Minecraft:
    i would prove you wrong if the old mobs were there
    rn the best my build can do is start a neverending war
     
    RainasuRyu and Lego_DW like this.
  4. Awsomeman12345

    Awsomeman12345 Property Of Pandora CHAMPION

    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    67
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    when will they change warrior spells
    the best I could do is corner them to an wall and launch a orgasm of spells
     
  5. Lego_DW

    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

    Messages:
    1,266
    Likes Received:
    2,537
    Trophy Points:
    164
    Minecraft:
    make bash have less knockback, and make it so uppercut doesnt send the mobs into space, thats how you fix it
     
    Awsomeman12345 likes this.
  6. Wynn: The Anime

    Wynn: The Anime Does not like anime VIP+

    Messages:
    872
    Likes Received:
    1,717
    Trophy Points:
    148
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    [​IMG]
    https://wynndata.tk/s/zjKJNe
    Level 90/100 def of honor guards/bishops/snipers in ~9 minutes with a def pot but...
    no hp pots
    (Could've got less but was running around on the surface before going to tight areas, could maybe get sub 9 minutes)

    I guess Alkatrash has some usage in wars
    Spell warrior still sucks though
     
  7. Awsomeman12345

    Awsomeman12345 Property Of Pandora CHAMPION

    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    67
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    The thing is about warrior, it struggles in open areas where you can't really corner an enemy as they keep taking knockback and in result, causing the player to move forward to deal damage. Which, affects DPS a lot. By cornering the mobs to let's say a wall, you can deal continuous damage without stopping just to get into your spell's AoE. Assassin is much more versatile to this as its main spell doesn't do knockback, therefore not affecting DPS in open areas. Melee warrior just (imo) doesn't have the AoE potential that its spells have.

    That's why I use warrior only in enclosed areas where there is at least a wall to keep them in place. Other then that, I'm sticking to my assassin for its versatility. Plus, its way much more fun to see high damage numbers.

    psst I'm making a warrior war build atm so keep a lookout for that
     
    Lego_DW likes this.
  8. Trash

    Trash Add earth dagger VIP

    Messages:
    462
    Likes Received:
    329
    Trophy Points:
    72
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
  9. Lego_DW

    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

    Messages:
    1,266
    Likes Received:
    2,537
    Trophy Points:
    164
    Minecraft:
    basically the same as my old earth spell just not a hive spear, gonna go out on a limb and say this will do just as bad
     
    Trash likes this.
  10. Golfbawl

    Golfbawl [] CHAMPION

    Messages:
    973
    Likes Received:
    1,111
    Trophy Points:
    125
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    Really? I've had great success soloing wars with Nulli.
     
  11. Golfbawl

    Golfbawl [] CHAMPION

    Messages:
    973
    Likes Received:
    1,111
    Trophy Points:
    125
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    Interestingly enough, I have used this build here:

    https://wynndata.tk/s/8ingUZ

    Its damage looks like a joke. And, by assassin's standards, it really is. Nullification's damage is a bit of meme. But, then again, consider the fact that this is the assassin class.

    First thing is that my Nulli has courage on it. This enables it to get buffed damage almost constantly in wars, which works pretty well.

    This, combined with the fact that assassin has spin attack, smoke bomb, and multihit, actually does enough damage. I was able to get a full 1k mob war done in ~9 minutes, no pots required.

    If anything, the problem with Nulli isn't so much damage, but what I had to do in order to be defensive enough to survive without the assistance of pots. I had to use Blue Mask to obtain ~125 neutral def, and use Heat sink to get over 1k lifesteal (because lifesteal activation on normal wep speed is absolute trash). Honestly, Nulli is great for wars, but it doesn't give much considering the damage it lacks. The lifesteal and manasteal activate so rarely that I needed 1k ls and 5/4 ms for my build to become sustainable. And, the % defenses hardly do much, since being tank isn't too much about elemental defenses as it is neutral defense, which is why I had to get over 125 defense using Blue Mask.

    Conclusion: Nulli can do incredibly well, but there are probably better alternatives. I feel like a well-setup Inferno build could do better, but that's a theory I will have to test another time.
     
  12. Golfbawl

    Golfbawl [] CHAMPION

    Messages:
    973
    Likes Received:
    1,111
    Trophy Points:
    125
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    I really doubt it would work. Nulli's lifesteal is high, but the activation is so low that you'd probably die, and your defense SP is too low for you to avoid taking massive clunks of damage. The agility might keep you alive for a bit, but I don't think you'd be able to tear through a full war, especially seeing as how Nulli can't kill fast enough to pull off glass.
     
  13. Golfbawl

    Golfbawl [] CHAMPION

    Messages:
    973
    Likes Received:
    1,111
    Trophy Points:
    125
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    my nulli tank can do a 1k mob setup in ~9 minutes. Don't remember what I got on the basic 80, but I think it might be same, or a little lower. I'd have to test again, but I know that Nulli is decent at penetrating pretty much any typical war setup.
     
  14. Awsomeman12345

    Awsomeman12345 Property Of Pandora CHAMPION

    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    67
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    how da fook did this discussion devolved into a nulli thread
     
  15. by2011

    by2011 category creator VIP+

    Messages:
    2,000
    Likes Received:
    2,272
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/veMb7T

    totally not my apoc build but replaced with air braker, nope, not at all (also why did i put air braker anyway)

    mess around with powders, you can try 2x fire + thunder/air
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2018
  16. Lego_DW

    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

    Messages:
    1,266
    Likes Received:
    2,537
    Trophy Points:
    164
    Minecraft:
    braker is top tier
     
    by2011 likes this.
  17. by2011

    by2011 category creator VIP+

    Messages:
    2,000
    Likes Received:
    2,272
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    heat sink is top tier
     
    Lego_DW likes this.
  18. by2011

    by2011 category creator VIP+

    Messages:
    2,000
    Likes Received:
    2,272
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    i forgot this existed
     
    Lego_DW likes this.
  19. Lego_DW

    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

    Messages:
    1,266
    Likes Received:
    2,537
    Trophy Points:
    164
    Minecraft:
    added a very bank guard build that can solo
     
  20. Awsomeman12345

    Awsomeman12345 Property Of Pandora CHAMPION

    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    67
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    still it relatively sucks
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.