Town Of Salem (mafia Game) [15/15 - Game Ended] {town Wins}

You guys are lynching me or alkatar based off of the basis that everything azura said is true, in which none of you have any credibility that he is telling the truth. The spy already claimed my credibility as me being framed so I do not understand the questions still against me, and even then you claim that alkatar is not spy? All just because of a random claim by BlueScreen who is arguing the same evidence over Alkatar but had less evidence when BlueScreen did not include the visits.

Regardless, even then If you guys truly do not want to lynch lego than so be it, I do not run the risk of double kills per night and I'm sure you wouldn't want so either. To be sure just have the "sheriff" check lego or have the escort, which I assume is JohnaldBot rb lego to be sure, once again is the escort dies by SK, we know what to do. It is in the best interest to either lynch lego or not lynch anyone at all. Although lego has not claimed a role yet, all that he has to prove his innocence are the claims of azura. If I can be sure of lego's innocence, I'll change my vote, until then I would like to prevent two town dying each night.

 

Look in the Jailor will, claim and will there. Just add N2: Jailed to my will if you're going to get fussy about those results.

Also yes we can't trust Azura straight away but when one spy claim then defends it by saying it's a framer who is then CCed by another Spy makes it certain that they are lying. The only reason Azura would lie is if they were exe, but then there is no reason for another person to lie if he was exe as then you'd be town and we wouldn't have two spies. The only way this scenario works out for you is if Blue is exe, considering the chances the Sheriff and Framer picking the right targets not to mention the exe would need to have Altakar as his target would be extremely low. The only way that you and Altakar are not Maf is if Azura is Sheriff so he can confirm me. If Azura was Mafia he'd have nothing to gain, he'd then get killed by town after the lynch.

However since you seem to not even be considering the above rare possible events which are the only way you are innocent you obviously aren't. Even if you tried to sell me that story the chances of that are about 1 in 6300(0.028%), pretty sure it's safe to say that you are mafia along with Altakar. Also that is not taking into account the chances of there being a Sheriff, Framer and Spy in one game which would reduce it even further.

Also there is no possible way in the above scenario Azura is Sheriff so they can just confirm me without the need to risk the Escort's life as you are suggesting.

Then also you falsely accuse me of not providing a role and will when you have not done so yourself, something mightily suspicious when you are basically a confirmed mafia at this point.


At least you tried though, I respect that.

 

I haven't read everything so far, but from what I ahve read Lego is claiming inno on the basis he is 50% inno


That makes no sense

Your logic of
50% I killed jailor
and 50% someone else did is pretty much false.

We had what... 13? people alive?

1 SK
so out of 12 people [or some number near this I won' bother to look] the SK attacked the jailor?

Thats like a 9% or something chance [I have shit math] Compared to the 50/50 of Lego attacking Jailor

I'm still pretttttty sure Lego is jailor man.


In addition, I'm not sure if there's a bmer, no one's been spamming that vote button like crazy [That I've seen] and theres no reason for Bm not to BM N1 since the only possible dangers are a Vet, who don't alert N1, and not a WW since it's not full, so they should have Bm'ed someone.


Unless I've missed something yeah



In addition on Azura, I want someone else to confirm him.

 

No Meric the Jailor has the same chance to jail one out of 14 as the SK has to attack him(also 1 out of 14). Also if I was SK then I'd attack the Jailor if not exed by him. Read my above wall of text for the reasons why Azura has to be Sheriff.

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And there is a good reason for a bmer not to BM, seeing whispers is very useful, people won't whisper if they know there's a bmer.

 

???? If anything the BlueScreen would be lying then, trying to fulfill the role they were wanting to claim in the first place.

If azura was exe, the whole scenario would still work, even if BlueScreen and you are telling the truth which I doubt you guys are is, we have 2 TI and 3 RT in total, and going over the two "sheriff" claims when you were in jail and the two spy claims, that still leaves an RT open for me if needs be if we do have an executioner.

Why does blue have to be exe for this to work out, he could just be an evil role trying to get rid of an innocent, and you neglecting the possibility of the framer and the sheriff checking me is ironic considering you want to not consider the 1/14 chance of the jailor dying to the SK,

You even said we can't trust azura, and yet you want to say that the only way me and alkatar are guilty is if azura is sheriff? That makes no sense to me, and even then azura does not have to stay alive by the next day if you get lynched due to the way town is dropping the evil roles would outnumber the town by the next day. And while your claim of being a sheriff holds better than azura's I do not want to take the chances right now and have the two town drop each night.

I do not know where you got these numbers from but doubt they are right considering the low chances of everything you said being true and I only suggest risking the escort because he offered himself and if you aren't really SK why would you worry for his safety anyway?

thx bb <3

 

I am extending the phase for another couple hours due to PST time having a complete disadvantage during the time set up in this Phase (I basically slept through the whole vote).

@Bluescreen has voted.
@(Meric) has voted.
@H0Y0Y0Y0Y0B0Y has voted.
@JohnaldBot313 has voted.
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I don't wanna start an argument here, but the spread is about 50/50.

14 people left. Jailor has a 1/13 chance to jail SK.

In the 12/13 that Jailor does not jail SK, the SK has a 1/13 chance to randomly kill the Jailor.

The chance that Jailor jails SK with 14 players left is 13/169, while SK randomly hitting Jailor with 14 players left(if they're not jailed)is 12/169.

So the total probablility of Jailor dying to SK with 14 players left is 25/169, with 13 of those parts being Jailor jailed SK, and 12 being SK randomly kills Jailor. Jailor has died already, so we are in the 25 parts. Scaling this up to 100 total parts, 52% are Jailor jailed SK, and 48% being SK randomly kills Jailor.

So if Jailor dies to SK and there were 14 players left when the night started, there is a 52% chance that the Jailor jailed the SK, so lego could be SK, but he doesn't have to be.

 

Sure but my bets still on Lego as the SK

In like the 60 matches I've played TOS literally all of them where an escort or jailor went to an SK and died, the person they rb'e or jailed was SK


1/13 random chance of Jailor dying

Thats really low,

I would have to assume here the jailor DID jail Lego because it probably makes the most sense.

dunno my gut feeling is that Lego is SK

If Lego would roleclaim it would be better

 

Please read everything that happened this day phase before voting guilty.

 

It still doesn't change the fact that Lego is like 99% SK and SK is pretty much priority over Maf...

but k fine if you want to kill a random person who MIGHT be a maf and MIGHT be a bmer over a confirmed SK why not
I'll change it I guess

 

I have, and there is way to much development that happens when I'm away from the game.

Starting to wonder why I even joined.

 

yeah, tos is good because its quick

this is meh

 

Not to mention voting phase would have been over by now and lego would get to go home alive purely because we (and by we, I mean you guys) we're all too busy arguing, like in an actual game.

If lego really is SK, then Town should consider themselves lucky.

 

I mean he is Sk, but Azura wants to kill a random unconfirmed maf who is possibly Bm first

 

Note: I'm taking a 14 hour flight tomorrow so I won't be here for a while.
Don't bother holding anything up for meh.

If we somehow get to the voting phase within 14 hours let uh @Azura do my vote or something if thats allowed.

 

Look at the Jailor's will for role and will, i was jailed N2 so no results then.

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Blue has to be an exe as if Azura is, as you are suggesting then why would there be 2 spies saying different things? There would be no reason for them to lie, it would be discovered and they would be killed. Only exes and jesters can win if killed, but NE is already taken so. Mafia doesn't want to die and nor does the SK so they wouldn't claim Spy. So yes he could be an evil role but that's unlikely.

And sorry that I'm neglecting the sheriff and framer while saying that mine is true when a conservative estimate makes mine 450x more likely. I got the number by doing amount of people sheriff could invest x amount of people framer could frame x chance of an exe having the same target x chance of an exe=14x10x15x3=6300, keep in mind this is conservative.

I didn't yet go through the reasoning I did in my post when I said that we should't trust Azura, so I wasn't sure yet. I worry for the safety of the Escort because the actual SK could kill them which would make me look very guilty.

Also role and will

 

@(Meric) has changed their vote.
@Tree_Legacy has voted.

I will not allow that due to it giving @Azura two votes which makes them overpowered af.

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I will be ending the vote now.

6 - 2

@Azura voted innocent.
@Wynn: The Anime voted guilty.
@HowToZombie voted innocent.
@Bluescreen voted innocent.
@(Meric) voted innocent.
@H0Y0Y0Y0Y0B0Y voted innocent.
@JohnaldBot313 voted innocent.
@Tree_Legacy voted guilty.
@Shatterglass abstained.
@Altakar abstained.
@Arcturisus abstained.

@lego_man724 has been put off the stand.

11 more hours of voting (I counted).

You have two trials left.

7 more people required to vote for trial.
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Thanks guys! I'll vote for the wynn anime but will change to Altakar if he has 6 votes

 

[I vote for Altakar]

Guys, let's get rid of the BMer first.

 

I'm not caught up, why is he the bmer again?