Star Wars Battlefront 2

This is temporary, mostly likely due to them being under investigation by the Belgium and Dutch gaming committee, as well as Overwatch

 

I have seen that, and I think whilst it is true, it might also make them reconsider it, possibly completely removing them from the game or at least making them more balanced. Before, i think it could have been on the verge of being pay to win.

By the way, why is overwatch under investigation? I haven't played for months, but last I knew of, the crates in that were purely cosmetic items.

 

The Dutch and Belgium Gaming Authorities, are investigating if micro transactions in Overwatch and Battlefront2 are considered gambling. If so, they will most likely receive a gambling warning (like swearing and violence warning on most games) otherwise they may risk a fine of 10,000 euro plus being banned from shelves in Belgium and the Netherlands. As for Overwatch I don't think they're being as strict as they are being on EA, however, even though they are purely cosmetic, this is still quite an addiction , like CS:GO skins or the whole Destiny 2 shader fiasco

Also they aren't removing them for good. They said they're "re-working" them so that they give an "accelerated experience" to combat against this investigation.

 

One of the saddest things in all of this, is that Dice has made a very good game. It covered all the flaws with flight combat ( mainly by removing collision and improving missiles ) and the fact that getting a hero or vehicle required very little skill, just luck. However, EA wanted money and
ruined it with microtransactions.
EA is a company that knows what their target groups will pay for ( seriously, how did they otherwise get people to buy the same football game over and over again?). This way, they know people will pay for Heroes, as they are the main Star Wars experiences along with flight.

Despite this I’ll buy it as I’m a huge fan of Star Wars.

 

I am too, but I only reason as to why I'm not getting this is so EA learns a few lessons.

Its like a clean bathroom floor, then EA comes in with a bucket full of mud and throws it down and thinks "Is good". They never learn their lesson from the previous experience. They ruin good titles with their grubby little hands. But this time its just idiotic what they've done, and they need to see the consequences of what they've done, cause if they do get good sales on the game, they'll do this again and again (not saying your shouldn't buy it, whether or not you want to support the company is up to you).

I want to like this game, and I adore the Star Wars franchise, but unless hey make some major changes, its basically another Halo 5

 

So turns out Disney forced EA to get rid of the micro-transactions, and they might also take away EA's license to the Star Wars franchise, which will no doubt hit them hard.

 

Bump because I want to talk about the game. I haven't got it yet, will be getting it a tChristmas. Anything I know is from the beta and the Internet atm

 

I’ve got it and it’s very good. The Heroes are also very easy to get if you complete challenges and open your crates. I could purchase any Hero after ~4 hours of gameplay. A slight downside is that you might end up playing the same maps of Galactic Assault and Starfighter Assault multiple times in a row which might get boring if you’re on the same team.
Heroes VS. Villains have been almost completely redone, but I won’t spoil it.
Also, gotta love the Flametrooper.

 

I just wish they reskinned the old starwars battlefront 2. It is already damn good. 2017 Battlefront 2 failed hard cause dem micro transactions are so bad.

 

Honestly, I think some people have overreacted to microtransactions and things like loot boxes. Particularly loot boxes. Right, I don't think microtransactions are a good thing, but by themselves they're not hugely bad things either. I also quite like the idea of getting stuff from loot boxes, although being able to buy a load of them and getting all the cards is unfair. However, I read a 'review' of the game the other day in which the reviewer completely ignored the fact that the gameplay is good, the graphics are incredible, and the content in general is a lot better than the old game (the 2015 one), and just wrote a rather... scathing essay about how bad loot boxes are.

 

The thing is I don't mind loot boxes as long as they are balanced. The loot boxes in this game grant players too much of an advantage being really random at times and sometimes granting some players really good items whilst others get bad items, this can then lead to really unbalanced games. Also the fact that you can get blasters and blaster upgrades only proves my point. This can ruin the gameplay, and while the graphics are good, you're not gonna go full Awe and Wonder each time you see them. Its why Halo5 did so poorly, a bad and short campaign plus the major advantage you can get from loot boxes.

Also in the news, Belgium, Hawaii and Australia have concluded that the loot boxes in BF2 can be considered gambling and Belgium, because its part of the EU, is attempting to ban loot boxes in Europe. Also Chris Lee (an important government body figure in Hawaii) said this about loot boxes; "Star Wars-themed online casino, designed to lure kids into spending money. It’s a trap”. What he means by this is that Star Wars is usually marketed towards a younger audience, and Battlefront 2's progression system does in fact lure kids into spending money. What EA has basically done is made a gambling game masked as a popular franchise recognized by kids. This is another reason as to why there is so much backlash towards the micro-transactions.

 

I have seen that, but honestly I don't think that the problem lies with the loot boxes themselves. In my opinion, they are not the worst system, although atm they are a little expensive at 4000 credits last time I saw, I think the the main issue is the fact that you can pay for in game currency with irl money. Without that, I think it would be fine, and maybe they could add microtransactions for things like hero skins (which would be a great idea - I think they'd make an OK to good amount of money from that) which gave you no gameplay advantage. When you add things that can be bought with in game and irl currency that changes gameplay, it's unfair.

 

My point still stands, the only way you can get this over powered star card is through the crates. And to upgrade it, you need you crafting materials, which also are contained in crates

 

??? As in that there are powerful cards and not so powerful cards? Anyway, Boba's a hero (well, villain), so is going to have powerful abilities. This one just happens to be pretty powerful and prevents him being like Pharah when she uses her ultimate (i.e. Gets sniped out of the air 9 times out of 10). And without microtransactions I think that it's a fairly fair system. If my friend and I bought a hero crate each, we would both have the same chance of getting this card, and if loot crates weren't there it would be arguably more unbalanced as people could choose to get the most powerful cards straight away. So, as long as microtransactions aren't there, I don't think it's a massive issue tbh.

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Oh, I've seen videos of HvV. I didn't realise the droid voice was in the game at first, I thought the player had added it in afterwards. And the thing about the maps could be annoying, but you have that in a lot of games like battlefront. It was in the old game where a lobby would play the same map twice but the teams would switch sides (at least most of them), I guess so that if you like playing a Hoth map as a Rebel you get a chance to rather than playing Imperials then going to a different map.

 

That was only an example of how unbalanced the game is. As for not having loot crates being unbalanced, there is an argument towards that, but in order to buy the items, you must put in effort to get the credits and xp necessary for the item to be unlocked, where as with loot boxes, a new player could have the chance of getting an epic on his first loot box with little to no effort. Also all the points awarded at the end of the match are distributed evenly among all the players in the game.

Take AngryJoe for example.


He got 330 credits but he is at the bottom of the leaderboard, then one of his buddies (prob another youtuber idk) got 350 credits at the top of the leaderboard. Thats a 20 credit difference between a 39 kill difference between the two. So again, you could be a really shit player but only get 20 credits less what the top player got, then just spend that money on some crates and boom some items. This "Everyone is a winner" tactic is absolute crap. I much prefer how the battlefront 1 progression system worked. Whiled flawed, you had to put effort into the game ect. Whilst some effort needs to be put into the loot crates, it seems kinda bull crap that a new player could get a n epic in his/her first crate opening.

 

Yes they could get an epic card on their first crate, but the chances are very slim and it doesn't mean you instantly become better. If you can use it well you have a bit of an advantage, but only idk a bigger blast radius on a grenade. I played the game for about 10 hours this weekend at a friends house,and didn't see that second thing you mentioned in action.

Can we maybe stop this discussion? I get that you have a differing opinion to me, and (probably) won't get the game, I will. Let's just leave it at that? I don't want this turning into some sort of flame war.

 

Understood, but that doesn't mean I won't get the game. The graphics are something truely beautiful which has most games like Battlefield 1 and CoD WWII a run for their money. I also do like the way they re-introduce the classes, and although the campaign maybe small, there are a few nice moments from time to time. I am still however debating if I should get it, and that is all I will say.

 

If you're considering getting the game, I would seriously recommend it. As stated before, I played the game for a good amount of time, and to be honest, if you ignore the stuff outside of the game like all the hate it's got, it's really fun imo. Some people probably don't like how you unlock weapons and upgrades (getting kills as that class/with that specific weapon), but I think it's quite good, as it rewards people for playing as a specific class.

 

I was gonna make a micro transaction joke here but that’ll cost 5$ as dlc