Reaction/Discussion Soul Points - Discussion Thread

You highly underestimate how unlucky I am.

 

I actually like it, it makes it more challenging and actually has me NOT use /kill to do literally everything. (I'm pretty sure that 110 of my deaths were from /kill)
And my logic about death systems in games is if you hate it, it's probably a good system. For example, vanilla minecraft makes you drop EVERYTHING if you die, giving you just five minutes to pick them back up. NOBODY likes that system because it does what it's supposed to, but you don't see people leading revolts against that.

 

how is "im under 3 sp, time to afk!" any less interesting than "im under 6 sp, time to afk!"?

 

Well, it's moreso "I'm at 6 SP," time to consider my options. I could AFK, or I could try and play more carefully

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I got a 9% Greaves of shame, a 5% ws maelstrom and a 1/4 mana regen ethereal, are you challenging my throne?

 

Well what if you have a few scrolls. You cant fight enemies because you could die. And RNG is nothing to be reckoned with.

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Vanilla MC isn't wynn. it doesnt have the same gameplay. They have similar mechanics, but they aren't the same. And really, you are careful about it because there isn't a story. You're surviving for no other purpose but that, but in wynn, you want to learn more, so saying that there's a chance to be raped by RNG is just about as bad as saying that you'll lose everything if you die. People aren't leading revolts against the vanilla death system because you have more control over what happens. You can set waypoints to know where you are and which direction it is to get back to your base, but in wynn, you have no base. You sometimes do not know where you will spawn. It pisses off wynn players because you have very little control over what happens.

 

So? Let's use a few more examples that are RPGs.
In WoW, you lose durability on items. you have to pay to get them back
In No man's sky, you lose all of your items and have to go to your grave to recover them
In Ni No Kuni, you have to pay a gold penalty if you die
In Pokemon, you have to pay the winning trainer if you lose
Even in ZENTRELA, you lose XP and have 50% chance to drop items in high danger zones right off the bat, unlike Wynn's new system, which you have to die five times in 24 minutes to have a 3% chance to lose items
As for "well what if you have a few scrolls" you would need to use TEN SCROLLS. TEN.

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You TOTALLY have control over a world generated by RNG where you have to balance food, shelter, exploration, the time of day, long term survivability, and supplies. ONE mistake could mean your death. And that's not including
-Thunderstorms that let mobs spawn in broad daylight
-digging into the lava, which is randomly generates
-digging into the lava in the nether, which moves twice as fast and goes twice as far
-dungeons
-randomly generated strongholds
-skellyhorse riders

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I said Vanilla survival. that's MODDED survival

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Yes you do; the closest town to where you died

 

As a student of game design (sort of) i'm 99% sure this don't gonna solve any problems.

The problem that pepole get angry because they lose all their items gonna be gone... But replaced by pepole calling the game unfair or think this game is glitchy as f**k because their items dissaper semingly randomly.

This is just a penalty, when world of warcraft added the tired penalty (now know as the rest bonus) the user numbers sank but when the name was changed to rest bonus all the players that quit becasue of that came back.

When nothings wrong why fix it? Many times that dosen't make it any better.

 

WHAT NO 5 STARS *pew pew pew*

 

Yes, I've lost 4 passus lux to the skill point glitch even when I had space in my inventory.

 

Fair enough,

 

this really sucks i like doing /kill to get closer to my destitation
also its terrifiying me that now you could lose legendaries and mythic easily

Random information (really idk why i posted this part) i died with 1 sp at nesak i was afk and lost my items
lucklily a friend of mine got the most important items he was in the area at the time
i could have lost 1 stack of le + worth of items :/

 

I've heard a lot of options now!



And whenever someone says it sucks I think of this.




Salted: We've added Soul Point things! Where you can lose items!


Some players:

 

Let's all vote for GTA Jumla kids.

 

Bump? Let's here some more opinions!

 

your examples are horrible. losing a rare weapon or amazing accessory is not equivalent to losing a small amount of currency or being able to get back your items. in wynn it is neither of those. a better example would be comparing the new wynn to a nuzlocke run, where if you faint a pokemon it is gone forever, not losing like 100p.

 

Unlike a nuzlocke run, you don't have a 100% chance of losing an item if you mess up. It's a three percent chance, it'll only make you lose your mythic if you die 1/33 times, AFTER dying five times. Unless you're an idiot, or really unlucky, you won't likely get that low to begin with. It's like in a nuzlocke, where if your pokemon died, you rolled six dice, and your pokemon only die if they all landed on a six.

 

I kind of understand what you mean that it techniclly isn't that bad but it is. This system isn't good and we should not live with it. Items and xp should be permanent no way of losing it except of a FAIR death mechanic. And i think it's 3% chance of dropping it on EVERY item. You have your armour (4 pieces) your assecorys (4 pieces) and your weapon (1 piece) thats 9 pieces 0.97^9 =~76% chance that you do NOT lose any of your main equipment. 1/4 times you die under 5 soul points you lose something very valuble probobly mythic or legendary. And if you die again with just 3 soul points you have ~38% chance of not loseing any of your main equipment.