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Archer/Hunter Some Insanely High Dps Builds

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Crokee, Sep 6, 2018.

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  1. Crokee

    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    Based on my experience, casting each spell takes 1/2 a second, waiting 1/2 second for a bomb to land, and waiting around 1.5 seconds for storm to finish shooting all its arrows. Bomb bomb storm would therefore take about 4 seconds already. Unless there's some macro, it doesn't seem feasible for me to even do this 3 times in 4 seconds.

    I like to make builds catered for those that usually hold their weapons all the time or just use 1 weapon only. Not being able to hold it every 4 seconds is quite tedious, and there's always a factor of messing up. I'll still make builds without hpr and see how it goes but I'm more inclined for builds with hpr at the moment.

    Alright I'll thank TikTok. I saw Errant but I didn't take it much into account, I'll give it a shot.

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    Added an Ignis build:

    Glassy Ignis:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/CYHqts
    • 9.2k hp with 1575 hpr
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr
    • 4.5k melee dps
    • 12.5k bombs
    Why did you make Ignis glassy? Well um why not? Sano's Care is the real reason for this, as it gives no hp in return of quite high elemental defenses, 3/4s mr, and some int and def sp. Add on Fire Sanctuary and you get a glassy build. This build has over 60 extra sp, so make use of that! Make sure to add in some sp to get at least 68 int for sustainable spell cycling.

    Working on water bows...
     
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  2. victorpotato2

    victorpotato2 Broke af HERO

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    Why be glass when u can do similar dmg not being glass https://wynndata.tk/s/xFC4dO
     
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    a. arrow storm takes slightly less than 1 second to finish casting (tested with slow mo and a timer)
    b. you're sort of underestimating bomb arrow's velocity, and in a conventional fight (LI/Hive), i usually make an attempt not to stand on the other side of the arena due to being cornered.

    besides, since bombs can be casted at the same time as a storm (99% sure), even having it land every 1/2 second is fine because you only need to cast 7 spells a second, meaning only 4-5 bombs need to be landed

    no, i'm not using a macro, i'm hand casting

    other people can do the same thing with other classes (stunlock on assassin, flying on mage/warrior)
     
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    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    on these "previews" of the build's stats you really should include the int threshold it reaches
    cus if i do something like this these stats would say WOW 12.8k bombs with 7mr? thats good and plentiful! except no int so it's really useless
    only telling the amount of mana it has can be misleading and cant be taken as useful data

    and maybe add def/agi alongside the elemental defs since theyre are honestly always more important to know especially agi on archer
     
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  5. Crokee

    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    Sorry for the late replies.

    I'm just giving the player options; I would agree that I would not use this though.

    I tested casting bomb first and storm immediately after and I noticed that the bomb disappears as soon as the storm is casted. I am not sure about the reverse but I would guess the same would happen.

    As for 7 spells every 4 seconds (you wrote 7 spells a second lol), I can't cast spells that fast, in part because my cps is more on the average side and I don't want to break my mouse that fast. I'll consider making higher mr builds in the future.

    Added ms and int in new builds. I'll update all the old builds first before adding these suggestions and agi/def in those builds as well.

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    Added plenty of new builds:

    Variant of Morph:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/STVHrt
    More mr and higher bombs, but very sp tight.

    After making a few Spring builds, I'm more convinced that Spring is overrated due to the low damage output it has.

    Caesura:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/JMjCxF
    • 8.9k hp with 137 hpr
    • A little bit of negative elemental defenses
    • 4/4s mr, 4/4s ms, 140 int
    • 4.7k melee dps
    • 12.4k bombs
    I tried using Caesura because I know that Spring builds tend to get way too much mr, so I tried reducing mr for increasing dps. It sorta worked I guess. Zhight Weird Magic Necklace sounds like a funny addition to this build, but it's one of the only necklaces that offer high damage for water.


    https://wynndata.tk/s/457sJn
    • 9.0k hp with 176 hpr
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 8/4s mr, 3/4s ms, 140 int
    • 5.4k melee dps
    • 12.0k bombs
    This build looks extremely sp tight, but all you really need is a 6+/7 int Starglass, and the rest have no affect on the amount of sp required for the build to work. Like most Spring builds, this build has way too much mr for the amount of int that it has, but the dps output is pretty high.


    I have tried using Cancer for the purposes of using def sp instead of agi, but the damage output is very low, so I will not describe it in full detail: https://wynndata.tk/s/u396Y5


    Morph? coming soon

    Leictreach Makani:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/y26whe
    • 9.5k hp
    • Positive elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr, 3/4 ms, 74 int
    • 4.9k melee dps
    • 11.3k bombs
    Very sp tight, but dps and defenses are quite high. I would highly suggest using this build if you have all very good gear pieces.

    https://wynndata.tk/s/SItwfH
    • 11.1k hp
    • High amounts of negative elemental defenses
    • 6/4s mr, 3/4s ms, 74 int
    • 5.1k melee dps
    • 15.3k bombs
    I haven't made any Stratiformis builds other than this one, but 15.3k bombs sounds pretty high for an air bow. Note the added dex.
     
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    try storm -> bomb i guess, i saw explosions during the arrow storm so either i'm stupid or... well either way i'm pretty stupid
     
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    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    I tested this and found out that you can cast storm and immediately cast bomb afterwards without having storm cut off prematurely. Meaning spell cycling got a bit faster than what I had thought... I will definitely consider building higher mr builds with this in mind.

    And no you're not stupid. <3

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    Updated Thunder builds with their respective changes and added more preview info. I will get around to the other builds soon:tm:.
     
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  8. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Can confirm, you can do just about anything with Storm running besides switch slots (that will cut off any further arrows). I've definitely used this to my advantage against Matrojan Idol...
     
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    https://wynndata.tk/s/Dykqo9
    This is a true glass cannon, I feel like that term is used too willy-nilly on the forums. The rings or bracelet can be swapped out for other items that increase defenses or dps, but the point of this is to deliver monstrous damage. I have a similar build on my archer, but instead of Contrast I use Kernel, and instead of Divzer I use Hive bow. My current build's stats are 53 str, 110 dex, and 68 int, not a practical build by any means, but incredibly fun to play; as I can spell spam 16k bombs left and right.
     
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    don't bother with 66 int, it's 68 or bust with archer pretty much
     
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    PrimaNocta Well-Known Adventurer

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    I don't think the stats are correct, because I my hive bow build gets perfectly 68, and I don't have a perfect brainwash in terms of - intelligence. And my kernel gives +1 int
     
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    divzer requirement
     
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    PrimaNocta Well-Known Adventurer

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    Wait in that case would a ring increasing int enough to 68 be better than suppression???
     
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    sure i guess, raindrop could work
     
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    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    That's not a glass cannon. Not glassy enough :P

    This is a glass cannon: https://wynndata.tk/s/EBO15Z
     
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    Crokee Nudist poking eyes CHAMPION

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    Did someone say GLASS CANNONS?!?!?!?!? REEEEEEEEE


    (This one here is copied over from my list)
    Godly:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/pmHQ2c
    • 11.3k hp
    • Some amounts of negative elemental defenses
    • 40 def
    • 6/4s mr, 8/4s ms, 80 int
    • 12.6k melee dps
    • 22.7k bombs
    THIS BUILD IS INSANE. Damage is the highest I seen for Thunder builds while still not being as glassy without the def/agi. AND you also have 40 def sp as well! Only one problem: you need a godly Asphyxia and a godly Memento. Asphyxia needs to have a good amount of spell and melee raw damage and a really high thunder damage. Memento needs to have a godly amount of spell damage. Memento does not need to have max mr, so you can save a few le out of that.
    This build has comparable damage to some of your glass cannons and even has def sp as well.


    Screw u int:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/60Reyu (modified from @PrimaNocta's build)
    • 8.0k hp with 989/4s ms
    • Extremely high negative elemental defenses
    • 0 def/agi (duh)
    • 5/4s mr, 13/4s ms, 0 int
    • 15.5k melee dps
    • 30.1k bombs
    I GUESS WE'RE GOING DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE!!! Who cares about int amirite? Surprisingly this has a lot more hp than I'd imagine.


    THE DEFINITION OF A GLASS CANNON (Thunder):
    https://wynndata.tk/s/pzH89x (modified from @PrimaNocta's build)
    • 11.0k hp with 865/4s ms
    • Extremely high negative elemental defenses
    • 0 def/agi (duh)
    • 7/4s mr, 16/4s ms, 68 int
    • 13.8k melee dps
    • 26.0k bombs
    You want glass cannon? I gib u cannon glassy! Brainwash is really good for providing high damage and mr at a cost of a lot of int sp. Since glass cannons don't use def/agi sp, why not use that extra sp for int? This build is very sp tight, and you will need a near perfect brainwash for this build to be viable. Make sure you have 68 int allocated.


    #$%Y^&Y*()$*(*GAY^&*(:
    https://wynndata.tk/s/Jr4Q87 (by @YYGAYMER)
    • 3.9k hp with -310 hpr
    • High negative elemental defenses
    • 9 def, 92 agi
    • 8/4s mr, 1/4s ms, 83 int
    • 6.9k (+400%) melee dps
    • 16.1k (+400%) bombs
    +400% (Technically about x2)? Where did that come from? I'll let YYGAMER explain for you: https://forums.wynncraft.com/thread...e-perfect-run-3rd-legendary-medallion.238172/


    I will include your build, @Druser, to my list.
     
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  19. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW HIC Master HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    not actually x4 ree
    Just +400% earth damage
     
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  20. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Yeah, I'm not certain of specifics but this acts before some other modifiers. Effective damage is slightly more than doubled I think.
     
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