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Shimmersight: New Design

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Selvut283, Mar 10, 2018.

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  1. Pokextreme

    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    It's not really going to be like msd because msd has a req and this doesn't.
     
  2. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    In no way shape or form do my suggestions paint shimmer as a morph stardust clone... If anything more like an ourboros clone or Vaward clone, but that was my intent. There should be options like those items for every slot, like facile and prowess for a helmet slot.
     
  3. Altakar

    Altakar former 1000+ day counter moth Item Team

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    Probably tone the positive IDs down by a little bit(2/4 MR, 1 less max skill point and damage)so it becomes an attempt to give SP and mana(which Third Eye doesn't give, and Anamnesis and Brainwash are special cases). This way it becomes a helmet that does two things in an okay way compared to a helmet that does one of those things a great way.

    I know this is gonna mess up SOMEONE'S build, but when an item is changed someone's build falls apart.
     
  4. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM CHAMPION

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    It has 2 mana regen.
     
  5. Altakar

    Altakar former 1000+ day counter moth Item Team

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    Did it get nerfed recently and not updated to the API?
    http://wynndata.tk/i/Shimmersight

    If the MR wasn't nerfed to 2/4 then Wynndata hasn't cataloged it yet, but 2/4 MR is fine in my opinion.
     
  6. Gigavern

    Gigavern Giant Fern VIP+

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    It has base 2 mana regen which leads to a max of 3 mana regen

    You can't have a max of 2 mana regen. The rounding system doesn't work that way.
     
  7. T-Flex

    T-Flex At the gym HERO

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    2/4 is base value. Due to how rounding works in Wynncraft, min is 1/4, max is 3/4.

    If we reduce base to 1/4, then the max regen becomes 1/4, we can't have 2/4.
     
  8. Altakar

    Altakar former 1000+ day counter moth Item Team

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    Guess I thought wrong when base values could be decimals.
     
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  9. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM CHAMPION

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    Bumping. Still need more feedback.
     
  10. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    give us more integers
     
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  11. e!

    e! ⁣e HERO

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    Wait, wouldn't 1.6 base regen work? 1.6 x 1.3 = 2.08, rounded to 2
     
  12. highbread

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    decimal base stats are not possible, sadly
     
  13. Thega

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    Personally, as a casual player, I have thrown out basically every shimmersight I have recieved. The problem here appears to be only in the endgame buildmaking community. Perhaps you could lower the mana regen, but you'd better make another neutral/rainbow helmet with decent mr, no SP bonuses or something.
     
  14. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    you haven't gotten a good one yet then (neither have I, but the stats are really really high)
     
  15. Thega

    Thega ```Interesting flavour text``` CHAMPION

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    no. A good one is basically as rare as a mythic, so they should be mythic.
     
  16. highbread

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    the reason why a good one is so rare is because people compare the sp to max, which is 35 total. in reality, getting max for a skill point is a 1/101 chance. people should be comparing it to 30 total, but that is not currently happening.
     
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    Thega ```Interesting flavour text``` CHAMPION

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    The thing is, a rare one ought to be good. This happens on all items with lots of positive stats. they are generally below average, because on the up chance that they are good, they are a tier above their peers.
    That might be the reason why rainbow builds CAN be so good.
     
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    Except because Shimmersight lacks reqs, it doesn't deserve nearly as much power as it has.

    You can say whatever, but Shimmersight invalidates The Modulator with ease, and is stronger than Vaward.

    Therefore, no. Not even with the rarity of obtaining 35 sp, can Shimmersight be justified.
     
  19. Thega

    Thega ```Interesting flavour text``` CHAMPION

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    update reqs then.
     
  20. Gigavern

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    You do realize what Shimmersight is meant to be right?
    A "slappable" item.

    Slappable items, for their lack of a req, thus should have toned down bonuses, or at least toned down bonuses outside of their sp bonus. Thus, Shimmersight having 2 base mana is absolutely absurd.

    And as far as I'm concerned, reqs will break more builds than a mana change. Certainly, mana changes will mean you will have to adjust your build to remain competitive, but at least you can still physically wear it.
     
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