Media [ Revised ] What's The Best Non-mythic Item In 1.19.4 Wynncraft's Endgame?

Well I don't main archer so idk

 

see he gets it

 

apologies for slowthink and excuse

 

*breathes in*

LUNNNNAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

Glad you got it out of your system

 

maybe lunar is the true best nonmythic and no one has optimized its playstyle yet

 

You obviously haven't seen the wonders of the crafted spine

Again, for legal reasons, this is a joke

 

Stinger is good but it's basically in the same tier as the other few top bows.

 

Procrastination? Should be a no brainer.
-Can compete with the mythic shaman weapons for damage
-No innate downsides
-Actually gives skill points
-Has the best lore in the game

Orange Lily
- Negative bombs is insane, essentially holding it makes the wielder call in a bomb strike
- Massive damage
- Innate mana

 

Nope.
You can definitely call it a pseudomythic, but it's clearly held back by its shield cost (which really does matter) and its gear options- heavy dependence on the helmet slot that hurts it when using nighthawk. So nowhere near the top 10, same tier as cluster and arguably a bit lower due to Cluster's superior gear options.

Nope.
Doesn't abuse hard enough, notably no powders and locked to neutral (which is also an upside, but a significant downside). It's easily a contender for best nonmythic items *at level*, but we're talking about purely endgame. It's not broken tier, only enabling high bulk with slightly lower damage than tris with 1 defensive skillpoint.
Amazing secondary if your main weapon gets walled, but that doesn't happen too often.

Both are great, but nowhere near meta-defining.



Honestly I'm more and more disappointed that I put The Nothing on the poll,,

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Okay now that I'm awake I'll tackle this properly:

Nope.
It's an amazing secondary but it's nowhere near meta-defining. When you compare it to other classes' swapouts, it suddently doesn't feel very special anymore. Sure, it has guaranteed super slow steals, but that's one nice-to-have that increases sustain. When compared to the other members of the top 10, it's nowhere near.

My sleepy "okay but it can't get tiers, locked to heavy" was an attempt to say that it has no real thing other than that super slow gimmick, sure it can do heavy melee but it doesn't make archer amazing when doing it or anything. Being a great secondary isn't good enough, it doesn't define the meta.


hopefully that was more coherent, regret about The Nothing continues...

 

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I shouldn't have to say this but atlas is the best non-mythic item in the game as of 1.19.4. It is good because it makes hybrid work!
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Obviously false, I would have requested Necrosis propaganda. smh.

 

My vote goes to Old Keeper's Ring, because it's probably one of the items that I hate the most. It's absolutely broken, OKR slap on any build = sustain, even on builds that really shouldn't be sustainable under normal circumstances. I hate OKR because of how absolutely broken it is, and definitely needs a nerf (Atlas needs a nerf too honestly, but clearly OKR slap gives more sustain than Atlas so). I suppose you can argue that using OKR requires good usage of the stealing stat & melee, but in my opinion OKR should exist only as a gimmick for such usage, rather being the omnipotent 'slap for sustain' item.

 

My argument against OKR would be in the context of Wynn as a game- it's overkill defensively in many cases. Defensive luxury is basically a waste of a slot if you have other sustain given the lack of challenge in the game, so its versatility goes from "every build ever" to "builds that use greed for sustain"
Even with that perspective, it comfortably makes top 10.

In a vacuum, there's no real arguments against it. Broken item.

 

bump, I heard there was a cult for The Nothing

 

As there should be.

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Also, OKR needs a rework. Having the best LB ring also be the best sustain ring is just not that great of an idea, especially without reqs. The fact that the Major ID was just slapped onto the item, rather than the item being made around the ID, really shows.

 

I don't get all the hype around The Nothing

(It doesn't have a powder special, forces you into spellsteal, and the lifesteal isn't significant, cuz it's mage, It is a nice tanky wand though, and has great practical application, I just don't understand what gives it a top spot)

 

Definitely the weakest one on the list, with plenty to replace it... regret,,

Actually, black might be relatively weaker as an item, even though it is more of a standout.

 

I'd say it's a mix of four factors:
-It's easy to build around
-It's got really variable damage
-It's in an archetype that's already strong in the current meta
-It's relatively easy to obtain
It's a very stable wand in builds, so you can build it in a lot of ways without compromising much in terms of damage.

And in practice, the wildly variable damage from 0-20k, along with the relative likelihood of landing a max damage hit compared to other inconsistent options like Fatal, make it extremely good at burst damage and chunking down enemies with just a little bit of good RNG, even on extremely tanky builds. The ability to randomly land a 20k meteor on opponents while running a full tank build is incredibly strong.

Plus, like Black, it benefits from being a TF item in a meta where TF items are incredibly good, and pretty much all of its stats make it a perfect compliment to the TFA archetype

And since it comes prerolled from the EO, it's not too difficult to obtain and randomized stats are a non-factor, which means that its performance will generally match what Wynndata says much more closely than, say, Nepta

That said, honestly it shouldn't be on the list. The Nothing is a good wand, but it's still relatively well balanced. It doesn't really need to be nerfed like the rest of this list, and it doesn't benefit as much as Black does from being in TF. Mage in generally doesn't really have the kind of meta-warping outliers the other classes do.

Also, this is a very weird pick, but I feel like Slider should be an honorable mention for this. In combat, it's average, but it's still easily the best secondary dagger solely because of how valuable it is for general use. It's a free quality of life boost just for everyday stuff like walking around town, questing, or making parkour easier. It's basically a slower but much less finnicky (or expensive) horse, and there's not really a reason not to have it on you outside of combat. Also, it's a neutral damage option for dealing with things that might wall you. It definitely doesn't deserve to be on the poll, but I still think that it should be talked about just so that newer assassins know to pick it up.

Saya you didn't finish this sentence

 

Guess selvut was right