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Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by DerVillager, Sep 8, 2016.

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  1. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    They're meant to give you enough to not be completely worthless.
    I could have gotten to level 10 faster by just grinding, the quests are useless because the reward is so miniscule it barely does anything to help.
    It shouldn't take an hour to reach level 10. I could pass level 10 in 20 minutes before, now it took me 54 MINUTES to almost reach level 11, only to be stuck grinding again because there's no quest until level 12!
     
  2. DJBorbo

    DJBorbo Wannabe edgy memeboi HERO

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    I was unhappy about high level dungeons and quests, but then I realized: holy shit I get 2k XP per kill.
     
  3. Lexdale

    Lexdale dead meme HERO

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    Oh no, you have to grind for a few minutes instead of just quest chaining your way through the entirety of the early game! Contact Jumla, we need this to be fixed immediately!
     
  4. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    The amount of time to get to level 10 tripled since the update came out.
    I think the fact that what used to take 20 minutes now takes nearly an hour is something that should be addressed.
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    1. Selvut and I were talking about this earlier and he said that he had no issues and didn't have to grind at all, and asked about how I played. This shows that.
    2. Pretzule expressed his opinion and I'm showing mine, and Pretzule can actually get Salted to notice stuff like this.
    3. I'm not tagging Salted, there's no point.
     
  5. JuicedBananas

    JuicedBananas Famous Adventurer HERO

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    For new players, every quest leveling them up would be overwhelming as they would be gaining XP faster than they could finish quests, since new players usually go around killing mobs as well as doing quests. Sections of the early game that require grinding are important to allow a buffer zone for players to catch up. At low levels, mobs give enough XP that you can level up just by exploring and killing mobs as you go.
     
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  6. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    The issue is more prevalent around level 18+ but I figured I would record the situation before that as well, and I wasn't gonna do one video from level 1-20something because this video alone took over 3 hours to upload :/
     
  7. Lexdale

    Lexdale dead meme HERO

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    It does not take that long lmao. I recently started a new class for the gameplay update and it only took me about 30 minutes to get level 10, so unless they've changed the early game xp in the past few days I have no clue what you're talking about.
     
  8. JuicedBananas

    JuicedBananas Famous Adventurer HERO

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    I started a new class for the update and didn't have to grind at all until around level 30. I did do a lot of dungeons though. They give a lot of XP when you're around their level, and in my experience it's not too difficult to find some other players around the dungeon's level who will do it with you. I think the dungeon rewards requiring a lot of dungeon runs is to encourage players to run dungeons for XP rather than grinding mobs.
     
  9. shipbreaker!!!

    shipbreaker!!! where are you going, old soul? VIP

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    And I like seeing people being rude about other's opinions. :saltedhappy:
     
  10. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Is this actually a bad thing though? One of the biggest difficulties of the early game, and many games' early phases, is lack of funds. It still is far from difficult to level in the early phases(those grinding times certainly couldn't have taken very long, could they have?), but not immediately chaining so many quests up to essentially skip the beginning of the game also means you'll get more emeralds by killing mobs, and in turn, more GEAR.

    One of the biggest challenges of the Lv 1-25 range is simply not having good gear, and while this does slow down gameplay marginally it certainly gives the early game more presence(even though the majority change is that XP bonus/Double XP doesn't affect early game quests; most of them got minor buffs actually) and it'll help prevent Lv 25's in Lv 6 gear. Plus, I noticed you didn't bother doing the dungeon, which would've sped up your process greatly. You got 4(5?) dungeon keys in that whole time; 2 from Prison Story and 2(3?) from the key guardians(I forgot if you fought two or three of them), and Dungeons give great XP, that IS affected by XP bonus and Double XP. You had plenty of opportunity to, and you simply didn't bother. You also seem to have not bothered with the great new mob-filled Time Valley, with plenty of Lv 10-15 mobs to try fighting.

    I feel this betters the pace of the game and helps ease new players in. Mobs at that level received a marginal at best XP reduction, but the XP requirements to level up were not changed and as I have said, most quests either simply didn't get altered with their XP(either they already followed the new curve or they were ABOVE the curve) or actually got buffed, barring just a few exceptions such as Underwater. I don't understand how the pace could possibly have slowed down as much as you say, with maybe a 1-3 EXP reduction on mobs Lv 1-10 before the new mob XP curve breaks even with the old one, but despite that, this keeps new players from feeling rushed. It's still very much easy to level then, and even into the Lv 20-30 range despite your complaints. At the same time however, you aren't being totally overwhelmed with it.
     
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  11. Salted

    Salted Game Design & Wynncraft Founder Staff Member Admin GM

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    You should do dungeons too. Remember, quests aren't the only way to get XP anymore.
     
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  12. dead zeffe

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    Personally i like the new update because be4 the update comes out i got the time to lvl up 3 classes to lvl 97 97 96 under 3 days with the quests ToA Wynn ExcaD Hive and lvl up 60 to 90-93 under 4 hours XD and now i got already 2 to lvl 100 one at lvl 99 and 1 still 96 and i Will play on it and farm the rest of xp for lvl up 100
     
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  13. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    I'm level 10 with crappy unique gear and no friends, dungeons aren't the best option for the level range that video is of.
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  14. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Except you know, dungeons are extremely easy. Seriously, solo skeleton dungeon is cake.
     
  15. JuicedBananas

    JuicedBananas Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Step 1: Stand in Ragni
    Step 2: "Would anyone like to do the Decrepit Sewers dungeon with me?"
    Step 3: There's a good chance someone will say "yes"
    Step 4: If someone said "yes", it means they want to do the dungeon with you! Invite them to a party and go get killed by Witherhead together.
     
  16. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    I only saw two people in that entire video, one was high enough to wear gold armour and the other died in one hit in the pigmen's ravine.
     
  17. ShadowMage1

    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight

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    One problem I have with the dungeon is that the barriers you put up to block Witherhead's Arrow Storm spell is that it doesn't block all of the arrows. There are a few that skim over the top and hurt you.
     
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    JuicedBananas Famous Adventurer HERO

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    How many people were on the server you were on? If you were on server 27 or something that's expected. A server that's more full like 1-10 would probably have more kids to use as meatsheilds.
     
  19. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    full server
     
  20. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    I've told Salted about this. He agrees, we just haven't gotten around to it yet. Rest assured we'll be working that a bit.
     
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