Guide Ranking Mythics Properly

Agreeish, with a great build you can get a fire build with almost as much dmg as a strati glass (that has agi ofc)... and ignis has hr, defenses, and 3.9k hp attached to it making it awesome

Yes, for cata u do need a really good build to make it stable

 

Well cata is getting nerfed too, so either you could say it's a C.

 

the req increase only stops rainbow slappers but that was never a real cata build ever.. the few smaller nerfs barely change how cata works, only a tiny bit less dmg which barely matters

 

Have you ever heard of morph cata?

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Even if you or I spent the time to get a good build for it:

I'm broke, and most other people aren't made of LE. Besides the struggle to find a good enough Cata and accompanying items, it's not going to be as stable a build compared to the other daggers. Grim, Inferno, Weathered, Nulli, and even Nirvana are more flexible and stable before a build is even added. Again:

I agree being hard to build with doesn't determine the value of the item or undermine the ability of the builder to make something that works. Cata is just bad compared to the other daggers and many other mythics.

 

130 cata req makes it basically impossible now, and if you count that as a possible cata build (technically is but need some godly sp items) that boosts it up like 2 classes.. and definitely better than all other daggers
not for nothing, assassin is a class meant for damage and not for stability

 

good build =/= expensive build
besides the weapon in this case

 

Idk if you could slap morph with cata with the 130 req. That's usually what people did to compensate for the health.

 

:eyes: archer

what: https://wynndata.tk/s/8Qm7K4. +57 DEX and 100 into the stat is more than enough...

I already said why that is redundant but I'll repeat myself:

Builds with more mana will do more damage over time. Cata's high burst damage or other's better sustained damage.

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Assassin and archer similar in that way... but I’m talking about stardust + other items not more morph. Makes a better build than all morph but very hard to acquire godly Libra’s and prisms

 

https://wynndata.tk/s/AqKIby hah how about more morph + other items

anyway, imo that morph build is better than a lot of other cata builds due to the fact that yeah you have only 9k hp but you also happen to have 100 extra sp to slap into agi/int

 

Ur list is good for the most part. Just a few minor adjustments. This is somewhat subjective but its basically the same ranking as urs so...

Strati is A-S tier depending on user preferences. Average mythic dmg (10.5k bombs) and cant find a build that has good spammability (94+ int 8/4) unless u want bomb averages to drop to 10k. Still good (thats why its in A-S tier) but yea... just tone it down a bit

Spring is A tier. Why u nerf spring salted :’(

Gma is A-S tier depending on user. I dont have to mention about dmg but yea, just build away the -hpr or use it for rage (45k bomb lol) whatever floats ur boat. -ws isnt convenient but dont complain about ws when u r archer... (left click three times).

Freedom is S tier. The MOST well-rounded weapon i have ever seen. Look at rainbow mythics in other classes... non even comes close to freedom. Very good dmg (second best because we all agree to ignore divzer XD). Insanely good stats, excellent survivability. The ONLY downside i could possibly think of for this weapon is qira... yea i tried using freedom on qira and... well that’s that... This boi is pretty expensive now fyi, more expensive than spring 0_0

One more thing this is off-topic but i felt like i needed to add this in

Infused Hive Bow A or A-S tier. Yes i am comparing it directly with mythics and guess what? Its better than most of them XD! Out damages or at least matches most archer mythics with INSANE versatility, VERY good elemental dmg boost in all elements, and NO sp requirements meaning u can have a dedicated powdered hive for each element if u can run hive 5 times XD. Also ppl might argue saying spring has more mr than hive but ok, spring is already one of the BEST archer mythics there is and was once arguably THE best archer mythics so making an argument and comparing those two implies hive is also at the level of very good archer mythics which is the point im trying to make. Anyways be honest how common are 4/4 springs? Exactly, not too common. Since Hive is merchant u will always get perfect IDs

 

https://wynndata.tk/s/jyEg7z strati 11k bombs with 94 int 8/4 some base defense and also pretty good ele def

the thing is:
hive bow does not outdamage the archer mythics when using the same element
in terms of damage
strati > hive bow also walk speed
gma > hive bow
ignis > hive bow
divzer > hive bow
hive bow < spring, except spring has insane mana/int

 

Not ranking based off user preferences. That is why the thread is called Ranking Mythics Properly...

Sanic tho

This is a mythic discussion. wtf

 

Hive:
Earth- https://wynndata.tk/s/eKhkAp
https://wynndata.tk/s/cAWi02
https://wynndata.tk/s/fLowuz
Thunder- https://wynndata.tk/s/BnXq4J
Freedom:
https://wynndata.tk/s/N5G6R7
https://wynndata.tk/s/FKkmnJ
Strati:
https://wynndata.tk/s/2ko9Ni
Grandmother:
https://wynndata.tk/s/6RMjTH
Az:
https://wynndata.tk/s/OH14XY

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Hive Infused Bow is nowhere near mythics, and it's getting a damage nerf soon on top of it. Even AZ, the butt of mythic bow jokes, out damages Hive bow.

 

Why dreamcloud?

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Rip hive

 

mana, elemental defenses

 

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Also by “depending on user preferences” im not saying that this is purely subjective, but u can’t deny everyone has different playstyles. Sure strati might be S if playstyle is having insane agil and ws. U might like that, that might be ur playstyle. What about ppl who want dmg? Elemental defence? Spammability? So yea dont get me wrong ur rankings r good and strati is good, but strati isnt good at EVERYTHING so i just tones it down SLIGHTLY to A to A-S

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Tried stillwater blue?

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Oh as for dmg i used a pretty shitty water build and slapped on a water hive. (You can have a hive armor or trinket while using a hive weapon dw) but yea.. bummer its getting nerfed

 

-thunder def kills you, don't really need to test

 

It has both?

Those can be built to include.

No, the point is it can do all those things. Not all at once, but they're all good options.

 

Ok honestly im having extremely mixed feelings about strati rn. Im gonna buy one and test it on video to see once and for all if this weapon is as good as ppl think