Any Class Random Build Plaza Because I Wanna Get Into Class Building Again And Am Running Out Of Ideas

Class: Archer
Playstyle: Spellspam/Tanky WFA
Preferred item: This crafted bow https://www.wynndata.tk/cr/865128002 w/ at least 2 T6 water powders on it. 129 int is a REQUIREMENT.

I've made a build for this myself but want to see how yours compares because I'm awful with builds. Mine has 15k HP, 14/4 MR, 1400/4 Regen and 12k bomb arrows to compare, but I'm definitely willing to trade off some stats for others. Best of luck ^^

 

class: archer
playstyle: pentaelemental spell steal
preferred items: orange lily, atlas
restrictions: no mythic

if possible, i'd like 1 cost bomb arrows with bomb arrow as main damage focus because fuck arrow storm, but i'm open to anything

 

https://wynndata.tk/s/pi7qeb
1 mana bombs? Also 14 mana is too much mana if you don’t use spells very rapidly

 

bruh 11mr with dragon's eye bracelet is more spell spam than 14mr. you also forgot about his w6 powders. here's a build that's better than endercomet's in almost every way, also a tankier one if you lean that way. unfortunately i can't beat your hpr without throwing damage out the window.

 

Lol ele defs hp hpr spell costs
‘Better than mine in almost every way’
No hate no malice but your tankier version is less tanky than mine

 

ele defs don't matter
-200 is kind of acceptable even if they did
wfa defenses aren't worth as much because mobs/players who deal damage in those elements also happen to be weaker offensively than et

didn't expect you to be in the dark about this
with that in mind, i triple-checked the calcs on tankiness before i posted, and yours is worse (48328 vs 48624 & 80603)
it's also better to have lower regular hp anyway since that would increase the effectiveness of hp potions, hpr and ls

bruh you have 500 of it
is that really a point to gloat about

just because i didn't assign those missing 2 int points doesn't mean they're not there
after considering spare sp my non-tank variant matches your spell costs with 3 extra mr

i said this with mainly the walk speed in mind, also i didn't know whether he'd prefer higher def or agi since he vaguely requested for both. my first build matches yours or better on every important factor like damage, tankiness and spellspam. the only stat relevant to the request that i'm short in is hpr, but even then you're like almost 1k off his original.

im sorry i can't say the same about "no hate no malice" but i didn't like what you said

 

@Endercomet @Qzphs both of you guys have a pretty cool take on the build - here's mine for comparison: https://www.wynndata.tk/s/5pdrb6 (new hetusol is pretty good imo)
Might consider swapping Dragons-Eye Bracelet in just so I can spellspam even harder. I wish there were more options for WFA but even with the limited choices we all seem to have pretty differing builds. Thanks for looking at it guys ^^

To be honest, I don't know whether I want to lean more into agi and walkspeed or def and hpr. Please don't flame eachother all 3 builds rock (frontliner getting a use is great imo)

 

Certified Frontliner™ moment. Honestly looking into all of the builds, there's an argument for all of them. Ender's build focuses more on sustain, a respectable choice for those who don't want to carry around a ton of hp pots. The builds by Qzphs are made more under the assumption that there'd be some external item or thing that gives sustain, whether that be potions or mages or shamans in the party (at least, the first one, the tankier one has some lifesteal which is cool).

The damage difference between all the builds is rather neglegable (seriously, the difference is so small that the conversion from arrow storm actually makes a difference and makes one of the builds have higher bombs but lower storms than the other), I wouldn't call any of the direct upgrades to one another, since something is always traded for another in the builds shown.

 

500 hpr is equivalent to 500 life steal cause of the buff, it might not make a big difference in combat but it would be quite a difference from zero or negative hpr. I slapped the build together and it was bad and I admit it wasn’t a great attempt.
Ornate slap on a fire build isn’t wise cause there are other options, like soul flare or hetusol on that build. But normally, experienced builders won’t make builds that are worse than others ‘in almost every way’ and I got very triggered by that. Also frontliner skill point is quite nice and it had uses before the update I think

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Also when maxing skill points, mine has an effective hp of 48692 which is higher than your 48624 if you really want to argue on that. I am not in the dark about it. But I admit the difference was way smaller than I expected

 

Stinger secondary. It brings free lifesteal to every archer build bar Divzer and -ls. You can swap to it, melee once for recovery, then resume combat with your primary bow. It's also flexible — when you're not in intensive combat, you can use Quake/CL to fully recover health. It's not always a complete substitute for external healing, but it overshadows the 500hpr in Endercomet's build.

500hpr isn't boosted by Quake/CL. It's also negligible in combat (even back when hpr wasn't nerfed to once per 10s, hpr wasn't worth running unless you could get at least 1k); if you don't agree with this, then our viewpoints are fundamentally conflicted and there's really nothing we can say or do about it. Kio made a point already about health potions. There's nothing else to say.

That's true. It's also why I, a non-experienced builder, was dissatisfied with your build after realising that I could improve further on it.

I'm similarly triggered that you would claim your build had higher effective health when it didn't by far. I stand by my claim that it is better "in almost every way"; yes, you have higher ele defs and hpr, but I don't believe they are significant. I've already argued in my previous post that my build is better in terms of every important aspect (except the point Kio mentioned about spell conversion and stuff).

 

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better?

the builds by Endercomet and Qzphs are both pretty good

that's cursed, here's a EWA build with good damage and quite some lifesteal

 

what no please i don't want rainbow i want pentaelemental please sir
but i do like the ewa build

 

better lol

 

class: Warrior
playstyle: Tank/Melee
preferred items: Apoc
normal+ attack speed please

 

then KoH Cactus Tank mage
Must over 100% reflection and thorns.

 

ok seriously, is this just some stupid meme or is there an actual difference between rainbow and pentaelemental?

here's a thing

very amazing build slapped together in 5 minutes

 

pentaelemental refers to legitimately investing in all 5 elements rather than using rainbow items, similarly to how quad works. he's got an example in his thread.

 

rainbow means using items that generally contain all 5 elements in their design, such as libra, rainbow sanctuary, freedom, the watched, megabyte, etc

pentaelemental means using items with 1-2 elements, but in such a way that your completed build has sp in all 5 elements
examples include using cumulonimbus (twa) as a helmet, and something like earth breaker (ef) as leggings
^note this build is likely bad, but it gets the concept across.

 

ok, thanks for helping me, didn't know about this. Do you still want me to make a build?

 

nah, it's fine lol
build request was a meme