Rage Thread - Give Me Back My Armor/money

Even more problems with the Gavel update.. Yay.. guess it didn't have enough yet..

 

The Dexterity was always meant to be on that piece of armor, it just never showed up due to bugs.

 

Why would they have both a Str and Dex requirement? That makes them nearly worthless, as no build is going to use both (Unless the person doesn't know that they don't stack)

 

Yes I do know that it would be op, but it could be nice if they had made a note or something telling the player.

I've found out that the bow im using actully requires dexterity + strength. But none the less it is just really bad game design to have strength+dex not stack without letting the player know, but also nerfing items without giving any warning or saying anything at all to the players.

 

For all those complaining about dexterity requirements what about all those assassin and archer builds ??? you expect those people to be happy with no pieces of armour that require dexterity ?

 

May I make a suggestion? Instead of making dexterity and strength unstackable, use an equation like this for doubled dexterity damage:

((Strength Bonus/(something between 2 & 4) * Base Damage) + Base Damage) * 2 = Output damage without considering elemental boosts/resistances or melee/spell damage boosts.
(the final 2 is for the dexterity double).

The "Something between 2 and 4" is an arbitrary number to be determined by the Admins. It will determine how small of a fraction of your strength stat is used as a determining factor to boost damage before the dexterity double. This constant dividend makes it so that if you had a 80% boost in strength normally, only 20-40% would be used in calculating the dexterity booster damage.

This equation will at least make strength and dexterity useful with one another for those builds that require it. It isn't perfect, but it's a proof of concept to appease those who hate the current non-stackable nature of these two skills. And realistically speaking, if you hit a critical point in a price of armor irl, your natural muscular strength would make a difference - perhaps not as much as it would with a normal blow to the body, but a noticeable difference nonetheless.

The reason I suggest a dividing factor between 2 & 4 to make only a fraction of Strength be used is for game-balancing purposes. I assume this is the very reason they never did stack to begin with.

Note: If anyone would like to flesh this out as a proper suggestion in the correct section, I give full permission to do so AS LONG AS credit is given to me for the idea with a link to this post.

 

What happened isn't that they "changed" a bunch of requirements. Stalagmites were ALWAYS meant to have a dexterity requirement. It's just that every piece of gear that required dexterity didn't have the requirement due to a bug. I don't know who had the idea of making them require both strength and dexterity but some people might have crazy builds like that. Sorry, but the way the armor system works can't even give you back your old Stalagmites. Not to mention, we've always had a strict-refund policy and this won't change that. The game would be totally unbalanced if helmets like Cancer had no dexterity requirement if you had it before the bug was patched.

 

btw @Salted not sure how or why but I don't meet the requirements for my armor and I can wear it.

________________________________

I wore it before you updated

 

Salted, you said in a previous post that if you want to wear a price of armor that would provide a boost to a skill point sufficient to allow you to wear the item, you could wear it even if without the boost you didn't have enough of the given skill point. Ex:
I want to wear a pair of boots. The boots require 50 Strength and give a bonus of 6 Strength. I have 46 Strength without wearing the boots. Initially, Salted said that you should be able to wear these boots. That is not the case anymore, it appears. Was this intentional?

 

Yes we do know that. The reason people are mad is because they just suddenly changed it.
If we had gotten a warning some maybe 1-2 weeks before the patch then things would be different.

In cases like this it would be better if the armor would be nerfed, but keep having it so you only needed strength and not dex to have it equipped.

 

This was the problem, I no longer met the requirement for my boots so they were put in my inventory once I updated my gear by putting on a Papyrus, but since I had no space, my boots were gone. Sure I'm kinda bothered about the 2.5 LE but I'm way more annoyed about the requirements ruining a lot of my items.

 

I guess I'm fine with the fact that items may have always been supposed to have a dexterity requirement, but what in the world was wrong with the person who thought that strength and dexterity should be used together?

Did they somehow get lost in the caves at the northwest of Efelim?

 

No archer would waste points on str.... they don't stack.... if they went all out on dex they would have little to no defense which means majority of their points will go into agility so they don't die in 1-2 hits and some on intelligence so they can keep going with the dps. Anything with just high agility req qould be fine for archer builds bc thats what they are upgrading anyway.

 

Hmmmm. This is an entirely new item system. I don't have my skill points all jammed onto two or three skills on any of my classes. I get to use almost every piece of equipment that I find. I wonder, was the skill point system changed? Maybe there are penalties for players who choose to overspecialize? Maybe there are penalties for players who choose to be closer to a jack-of-all-trades? Could it be that WynnCraft has been updated, and the game mechanics altered?

DON'T CHANGE CLASSES and be careful changing accessories. The armor will drop off if you change your class, and it may drop off if you lose a skill point boost when you change a ring, bracer, or necklace. I was fortunate to have it happen when I had multiple open slots in my player inventory.

@Snowing , I agree with you that implementing a major change, such as turning on the dexterity requirement, should have been announced, prior to it being fixed. That was a faux pas on the part of the admins, and, in hindsight, I don't believe that they would have done it that way again. It's not like it was done to intentionally hurt anyone. The admins are human, too. Live and learn. Lesson learned.

Unannounced major changes are deserved of the stocks! Let even the rapscallion dirt-faced children pummel thee with the rot of the gutters!

 

Good thing that my chestplate wasn't legendary when my inventory was full...
The chestplate was Soul Signal.
God dang dexterity

 

Well i read a lot of dextery strength and this won't work or stuff like that .-. So is 133 agility ; 85 dextery ; 30 int bad ?

 

I LOST MY FRICKING SPIRITSHOCK BOW ! GIVE IT BACK

 

Well .-. If you lost it cause the dextery change it won't make any sense cause its a thunder bow so i think you are a thunder archer. So why you lost then your bow ?

 

i had 76 dex, i didnt have time to change it so when requirements came in i neede 80 but i only had 76 so it dropped and despawned

 

4 points .-. That hurts