Pondering about mana bar change...

Pdunk · Jun 13, 2022

Endistic said: ↑

also why do i feel like mana regen is increased every 25 int
25 int makes u regen 2 instead of 1
50 int is 3 instead of 2
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There are now hidden decimal points in your mana value, to take care of situations like these.

Ramattra · Jun 19, 2022

Salami said: ↑

Has anyone else ever wondered what the point of increasing the mana bar was?

I mean, considering that everything else mana related will scale with it, was there ever even a point to it in the first place?

The only reason I can think of is the Intelligence changes, but that isn't even demanding of changing the mana base from 20 to 100, just divide current Intelligence numbers by 5 and you get the same results. It just seems completely useless and makes things more complicated for mana stats.
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I like the mana bar being out of 100, the new mana steal mechanics work very well with it and it's how mana steal should've worked all along, I just hate intel not giving spell cost reduction and even though it gives more mana so your spells cost less effectively it's awkward and unnecessary lol

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Bart (MC) said: ↑

I'm surprised a lot of people are looking forward to it, I've personally been hoping the change wasn't going to happen since we were informed of it. It might make intelligence's skill effect a bit more consistent, but I've always found the intelligence "tiers" to be extremely useful for building and the intelligence effect change would still have major tiers if it wasn't for mana now using decimals to calculate as well; and the larger mana & spell cost numbers IMO are both much more difficult to build with and a headache for balancing. Spell cost % will be harder to calculate, every mana & raw spell cost roll with be harsher, positive spell costs will be even more impossible to actually have as a downside on an item, intelligence is disproportionately weak to even current IDs, and the convenient base 1 mana/spell cost that would always make an item decent is gone too.

It's not a bad change per se but it's essentially sacrificing quite a bit of utility and convenience for looking a bit more satisfying which IMO is simply not worth it.
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Giga based and I completely agree except I do think it's straight up a bad change

Endistic · Jun 19, 2022

Haise Sasaki said: ↑

I like the mana bar being out of 100, the new mana steal mechanics work very well with it and it's how mana steal should've worked all along, I just hate intel not giving spell cost reduction and even though it gives more mana so your spells cost less effectively it's awkward and unnecessary lol

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Giga based and I completely agree except I do think it's straight up a bad change
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yeah
I agree with the awkwardness of no lower spell cost, im finding it hard to make sustainable 2.0 builds
i dont have hero so i cant test them, but doing math to test them for me
the only way theyre sustainablr is if you cast like one or rarely two spells a second in 2.0
but rn we can easily make a several spell a second sustainable build if we sacrifice dmg quite a bit

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