Pity Cost

He said he will buff guild slots a bit, meaning guilds will have more player slots.

 

If the price to attack was lowered and pity was removed, there would be no need for a 10 minute wait timer, as the main reason it was added was to allow attacking guilds time to gain emeralds

 

o well Salted just said he will be nerfing it or toning it down for better word so yeah

 

@IceResistance why is this thread a thing since you already saw salted publicly saying on discord that it will be removed and in its place will be a much lower impact pity timer that only procs at 20 mins?


Edit: nvm just read the coments and this was made b4 salted said stuff.

Edit2: lmao ppl complaining about not having guardian and ignis when u have 800 wars in morph casca and ignis sucks.

 

Pity cost implementation is still an omnishambles and today's war showed:

Five guilds (TAq, PUN, NFR, ANO, Imp) surrounding EDN's HQ and taking it didn't wipe the guild; instead, it retreated to Olux, had its pity cost triggered (>32k per attack, and since we were raiding none of us have enough emeralds to carry on), and an hour later it is back up to half its terra claims.

Nine guilds (ERN, LXA, TAq, PUN, NFR, ANO, Fox, Ped, ILQ) were actively warring and not a single one of us can do anything to stop EDN from recuperating in a fraction of the time it took for us to siege it.

For our strategic coordination and days of combined effort, we were awarded with what is essentially god mode.

 

And why didnt they have enough emeralds? As the recent hotfix WHICH YOU REQUEST A CHANGE TO, does minimal effect to large empires, EDN last small enough so long to have a high pity cost and you guys should've had enough emeralds to keep continuing...

Why are you necroposting on this thread to begin with as well as a change which YOU GOT and YOU STILL HATE at, what do you want? Free guild attacks for 4 terrs or something stupid, the defenders are already heavily disadvantaged if you didn't know

 

Please stop yelling. This is my first post on the forums about guild wars, let alone guilds. You've mistaken me for somebody else

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9 days is a bit of a stretch for necro don't you think? Also, as it's a very salient issue with current consequences I think this is wholly appropriate.

Because until a few hours ago, the attacking guilds don't exist on the map.

 

Not mistaking anyone if your the typical person to complain about a feature you asked for am I wrong?

Well lets say the peak they got, this is why taking out Lows and Very Lows is inefficient and competent warrers is much more efficient considering the Rest limit doesnt go up as much as more timers can be queued on dud territories at the end. So why did they have no emeralds? Well sorry that just doesn't answer it.. Attack territories that matter then launch a full-scale eradication of the enemy guilds teritories while you still have the emeralds to not just go berserk monkey mode 2.0 please.

 

Yes, I've been very apathetic about guild wars and have had no opinion on 1.20 wars until yesterday, which was my first ever war. I'm sure the rest of AVO doesn't endorse your aggressive strawmanning and ad hominem attacks.

 

thats the point of pity cost.

 

I'm not for reducing pity any further, I think it is fine in its state and sensical.

I would like to address that statement however because defender has been mixed around. The term defender has become somewhat equalivent to "mega alliance" because all defenders are allied.

Mega alliances DID get nerfed, yes. Or so it seems. Individual defender protections did not. Guilds only get dogpiled because a meag alliance owns the map, and hence guilds coordinate to attack with each other. In a different environment without a mega alliance reigning supreme, that threat of getting dogpiled doesn't loom so largely. Mega alliances were nerfed, but to say that the individual defender is at a disadvantage is false. By any standard, the individual defender has protections, and rightfully so.

I am not against protection for defenders, it should exist - and ultimately it should be acknowledged.

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