Music [piano / Music Arrangement] Bucie (humble Beginnings) - Sheet Music & Song!

"I believe Seth was mostly angry as XavierEXE did not acknowledge his contribution within the song, as a result it seemed as though I was patting only Selvut on the back, rubbing it at Seth. I wish to apologize about that, but as thread owner I do not want this to be how this song is remembered, nor do I wish this thread to be filled with anger and hate from both sides. I would never intend for it to be like this. We are all musicians, we should all understand the same notes and tune."

No, I'm not that angry at XavierEXE, how could I be? He's done nothing but support me when others didn't. I'm mad at Selvut mostly, but the explanation on that will be in the video I put out on Friday.

"Neither you, or me, or anyone in Wynn will profit with a lawsuit made from anger. That is made purely on sheer hatred and jealousy."

I highly doubt I will resort to something like that, but don't get me wrong here... This isn't about me hate. I don't hate anyone. This has nothing to do with jealousy. I am not as good at making music as Xavier, because I haven't dedicated myself to the subject. I'm not jealous of Xavier, I'm happy that he put time in to become musically inclined. The difference in our abilities is due to the choices we have made. I can't be jealous of someone all because I didn't put the time in. This has to do with me being vindictive. Selvut has tried to destroy my reputation as a composer, saying that I've stolen his music. I'm just turning the tables here. Me being vindictive isn't right, and it may be hateful in a way, but it's exactly what I want to do.

"As such, I would like to be the first to acknowledge that SethRPG and Selvut283 have teamed up together to create "Humble Beginnings" as a song. Let this song be your mark in Wynn, leave it as it is, so that people who enjoy it will continue to enjoy it (Think about it, many people loved this song).
But if you are so tight on getting rid of Bucie in the Wynn OST, do so,"

It's a great song, and Selvut did a great job by adding such an amazing theme to the base of the song I created. I love the Wynn community, and that's why I made music for it, even though most of it was abysmal garbage I pulled out of my ass in 10 minutes. I didn't try to take out my music to hurt the community, I did it because nearly every person on the CT was treating me like dirt after I got kicked, and I didn't want my work to be in Wynn if that's how they were going to represent it.

"but mark my words:
Why compose songs, when no one will listen, anyway?"

Wynncraft isn't the only place people can listen to music you know?

 

You know what they say about assumptions, and this statement is once again made on the assumption that I didn't ensure this was alright with you, which is incorrect.

When karma was doled out for the song, I received 20. Songs are worth 40. That other 20, had you still been on the CT, would've gone to you. This is why I say I did about half the song. In addition, let's break it all down.

The first 37 seconds are mostly yours, though I had to edit the bassline and drums to make them much more mellow, recalling your spicy hi-hat soloes and snare focus, and a slightly off-tune bassline. This initial snippet acted as a fine backing for the majority of the song, though your initial draft didn't have much more to show aside from adding an octave-shifted backing to continue, hence my 37 seconds comment. After this, the melody kicks in, which is mine. I messed with a few minor details to keep everything consistent from then on, so I consider that part mine.

At about 56 seconds, another part that's mostly yours appears, lasting about 10 seconds and afterwards, I add more melody and do the same adjustments as before to the rest to allow for that melody. The song is about 94 seconds long, and you have about 47 seconds of it to claim, as well as the initial backbeat of the song. Given that Xavier split karma with me on songs thanks to simply a drumbeat or idea or 15 seconds snippet, I consider this half-and-half.

As though I'm paranoid enough to keep screenshots of my conversations on the build server in case you should return months later with the threat of a lawsuit at my neck? I like to have trust in people. Whether this is naive, dumb, or sweet, I couldn't care less. You're no less guilty, spouting off all these ridiculous assumptions and theories on me in the moment.

I had no part in doling out the credit as I did. I got half the karma, so the credit was half yours. My assumption was that you weren't credited on the video because you were no longer part of the content team; you were removed before your songs went ingame. On the other hand, Xavier could easily have just made a mistake uploading the song and could fix it in a snap.

As the people above have noted and as you have admitted yourself in the posts above, this is only serving to make you look like a petty child throwing a tantrum. As for Volcano Island, if you're going to throw that out as a reason for doing this since I thought the first few notes sounded like Bob's Tomb, you and Xavier literally convinced me away from that, but the team as a whole was unenthused with the song, so it wasn't used for that reason instead.

As though this situation is a game to win over me.

You act as though we're scheming behind your back, hands clasped and rubbing together going "Nyeh-heh-heh, we'll dupe that dratted Seth!" or curling our moustaches going like this.

I've done nothing that I'm aware of to besmirch your reputation. In the team, yes, I suggested you practice. Songs such as Bucie and the unreleased Katoa Ranch song ended up developing out of this, so I doubt that's a blemish on your reputation. All artists must practice their craft no matter their level. If it's about Volcano Island, see above. There's no reason except childishness to hold this over our heads. Would adding "Composed by SethPRG and Selvut283" in that video's description really fix all this? We don't really have a credits page for the staff as far as I'm aware to add you to elsewhere, so either removing the song entirely or adding that, as well as making yourself look like a tantruming child, is all you'll receive out of this.

 

I have DMed the both of you. I hope you both could come to an understanding, as there is clearly no winners out of this. As I see it, I would prefer for it to be moved to DMs instead.

 

SethRPG, if you truly filed for copyright on the Bucie theme, and if you have obtained such, I would like for you to post an image of it, in here. It will be most interesting to see your filing for same. You may be wondering why I say that. Well, we have laws in the United States, and the Copyright Law of the United States (Title 17), Section 201. Ownership of copyright, (a) Initial Ownership, states "Copyright in a work protected under this title vests initially in the author or authors of the work. The authors of a joint work are coowners of copyright in the work." I'm going to take it that you understand the meaning of the phrase "authors of a joint work", as you have credited at least part of the work in question in your previous statements, herein, above, to other authors than yourself, and that you know what the phrase "coowners of copyright in the work" mean. If not, allow me to assist you in understanding such; it means that no author of any joint intellectual material owns, or may lawfully claim to own, exclusive copyright of the material, "unless the parties have expressly agreed otherwise in a written instrument signed by them." Unless you have such instrument, and from your statements, herein, above, it is apparent that you do not, if you indeed have filed for exclusive copyright of the intellectual work in question, and if you have filed as the sole owner of said work, you may have done so in violation of the Copyright Law of the United States.

 

I'll respond to this in its entirety at another point in time, but for now I'll just state this. Look dude, whether I'm a part of the CT or not doesn't mean you get to claim my part of a song as your own. Ignorance isn't an appropriate defense. You can't use an excuse saying that since I wasn't on the CT, it's alright to not credit me for what I made. That's theft.

It astounds me that you said this. When two (or more) people prepare a work with the intent to combine their contributions into inseparable or interdependent parts, the work is considered joint work and the authors are considered joint copyright owners. I only copyrighted MY part of the song, and since I created that part long before the initial joint work had started, it means my work is not inseparable and interdependent, so saying this is a joint work doesn't really apply. You could also say that Bucie can be separated into two different songs, so saying that it's inseparable and interdependent in that regard is a very large stretch, but it was a good attempt anyways. If you want to see a picture that bad, I'll gladly post it... However, I'm sure you can just wait till Friday. I also won't be looking at the forums till Friday as well, sooo... have a great day?

 

If is to your detriment that you will not see this. However, for everyone else, SethPRG filed an application with Wynncraft to join the content team (CT). He was accepted as a CT member and voluntarily produced some intellectual works of music, without any exceptions, and with the knowledge that any and all works produced by the CT are subject to modification, as necessary, to fit the themes of various parts of the Wynncraft game (the game). To that end, SethPRG wrote a snippet of music that was later used as the background theme for the city of Bucie in the game. Said snippet was not acceptable to the CT composers as it was written, however, it was modified and extended upon by one or more CT members. Hence, SethPRG wrote a basic musical theme that was heavily modified such that it would be acceptable for use in Wynncraft. Hence, the Bucie theme is a joint work, and subject to joint copyright, as defined in the US copyright laws, despite SethPRGs claims.