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World Option To Reset Quest (in Progress) (98.7% Positive Support [75 Votes]

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by SUPER M, Jan 10, 2019.

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Do you agree that this command should be added?

  1. Yes.

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  2. Maybe.

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  3. No.

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  4. I have another solution. (Please state in the comments)

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  5. The command should only be avilable to mods.

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  6. The command should be avilable in your quest book.

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  1. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    I've previously seen threads about this particular suggestion, however! This one will have different approach.

    I'm making this suggestion, since I've seen and experienced the trouble of quests breaking mid playthrough, and they only fix that seems to be suggested pretty often is to:

    "Delete this class."

    or!

    "Get quest items from other class."

    Well I won't accept this "fix" anymore!

    I will not throw away, hours of my hard work, becouse the developers belive that this problem cannot be fixed.

    I present you with a solution to this problem. A /resetquest command! But, (you ask dear reader) how does it work? (Or for another solution get to the bottom of this post)


    First of all, it only works, if you haven't completed the quest yet. So if you already completed it, you can't reset it anymore.
    Furthermore, to fix any complications with quest items and rewards. Every quest item from quest you're restting that are in your possesion, would get deleted. This would only affect quest items however. That's why my suggestion differs from others, this suggestion, would not include, "Underice", "The Envoy Part I" and "The Qira Hive", quests, as rewards from these quest could be farmed by reseting the quests over and over, before fully completeing the them.


    The command syntax would work like this:

    [/the command] {quest you want to reset}

    Which would then ask for your confirmation.

    "Are you sure you want to reset your progress in this quest? You will lose all your current progress."

    "Type in chat, yes or no."

    After confirmation, your questbook would reset the quest to before you started it, showing in your quest book, as "not started".


    The main reason for adding this suggestion is to bring a permanent fix to many issues involving the breaking of quests and would hopefully ensure, an easier solution to many problems involving quests.


    I know this suggestion may seem controversial, but I won't stand for destruction of my work and the memories I made with a specific class, that is now locked away from full game completion.

    BIG BOY EDIT: As per user's suggestion I decided to add option that instead of the command we could add the command to be only used by moderators, in order to prevent constant rests of the quest by players.

    EDIT DOS: As per user suggestion I added option for the command to be avilable in your quest book.


    Any criticism will be appriciated!
     
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  2. btdmaster

    btdmaster Famous Adventurer VIP Item Team

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    +1 good fix for quests, as they will probably never be perfect and someone somewhere will have a problem that isnt currently fixable.
     
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  3. alcoholic femboy

    alcoholic femboy i will kill again HERO

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    Both of these are incredibly rarely necessary, especially nowadays when JP's fixed.


    I highly doubt that's been said by a developer. The problem in most cases isn't that something can't be fixed, but the fact that despite people like JP working like a 10 man army, Wynn still has very limited resources when it comes to code development, which are spent on more important things first. Things take time.

    I'd also like to add, that this would also require development time, and likely even more manual work to determine which quest items belong to which quests. Why spend those resources for a workaround, when it could be used to fix the issue's cause? I also wouldn't imagine that scanning through every class' inventories and bank pages would all that performant on the server, but what do I know.


    Another potential problem with this would be, that players could get stuck in quest areas. Sure, there's /kill as a backdoor, but it'd still be optimal to not rely on it. An average player would also have a hard time determining whether a quest is completely broken (which, might I add, is really unlikely) or just partially broken, and likely reset quests all willy nilly even though simpler options such as /kill, swapping servers or regoing through a couple previous steps would resolve it.



    In short, the concept of being able to reset quests isn't bad, but the amount of work it'd take to be efficient would most likely not be worth it.
     
  4. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    Well I've seen this way of fixing the problem on the thread posted December 30 of the last year.
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    I do understand that, and that's why I don't demend that this should get added asap. I can wait.
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    You're right, but I still belive that this suggestion would be a gurantee fix to all quest related problems.
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    I would diagree.

    As I don't belive it would be that often that people would find themselves having to use this command. Yes, this does mean that the command isn't really thay necessary, but the idea for this command is to be ultimate solution, when nothing else works.
     
  5. alcoholic femboy

    alcoholic femboy i will kill again HERO

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    Could you point out a few, that;
    1. Actually, fully softlock a quest.
    2. Didn't appear because of a code update between 2 content updates, and therefore couldn't be pushed to live servers until the next update hits.

    The only one I'm aware of right now occurs if you use Bob's crushed soul on Temple of Legends while Bob's Lost Soul is incomplete, and the chances of someone accidentally doing that are incredibly low. There also used to be a couple issues with /fixquests not refunding correct items which have since been fixed.
     
  6. H0Y

    H0Y H0Y HERO

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    Envoy part 1 blank powders?
     
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  7. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    shit.

    I'll add it.
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    I'm stuck in Sandy Scandal. I cannot complete it becouse I was going through a cutscene while server restarted and even though I completed the part which the questbook points me to, it well... points me to do that.

    If you need a better explenation I can PM you.
     
  8. alcoholic femboy

    alcoholic femboy i will kill again HERO

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    Broken WynnScripts are a part of this
     
  9. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    I see.
     
  10. TheLMiffy1111

    TheLMiffy1111 Previous Leader Of A Revived Wynn Community CHAMPION

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    Can't you already rest quests?

    Oh you mean reset
     
  11. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    Whoops! Fixed.
     
  12. yellowscreen

    yellowscreen Certified Lurker

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    You can remove past ”bumps” to make the thread cleaner and easier to view without bouncing it down
    (Past, as in, not the latest)
     
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  13. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    LIterally NOONE EVER complained about this. LITERALLY NEVER. So I don't think it's that big of a problem for everyone else.
     
  14. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    I agree! But I would say that you only get 1/5 the xp and emeralds you got from before. And no items, as then it will be abusable
     
  15. CyberNitra

    CyberNitra King of the Storm VIP+

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    totally support this suggestion
    My mage has a broken quest and that would easily fix it.
    But i see problems:
    If one would to do a quest where they get items in the middle and reset, they could get that item many times
     
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    seeksery Wybel Photographer HERO

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  17. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    So, becouse a quest got broken and now I can't finish it, so the only way of me being able to beat it so to rest the quest, then I shouldn't get the full reward becouse, i guess I'm not allowed to fix broken things?

    It would be like having to repeat a year and you're taken away the ability to get good grade at the end of the year becouse you failed it previously.
    [​IMG]
     
  18. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    I meant if you had finished it before you idiot :P. Look at my quote "from before", learn to read before criticing, my friend.
     
  19. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    Ok? From before what?
     
  20. seeksery

    seeksery Wybel Photographer HERO

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    The suggestion explicitly says
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    You idiot :p learn to read before criticizing by saying to learn to read before criticizing, my friend.
     
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