Info Item Team Update Thread - Latest Updates, Rebalance Changelogs & More - Update 28/6

You're mixing the most recent change and the pre-changed values. Currently cooking only have around 1000 seconds at level 100 materials, it is after the buff that will change it to 3x of the original amount. Potions and scribing are 1/3 of cooking, around 350 seconds, so your recipe wouldn't even work in any cases as it would have more duration than current potion and scribing durability and giving u like a 40 second food item.

When we increase the base duration by 3x, the duration costs will also increase by 3x. So when the duration for potion and scribing reaches 1000, your recipe will cost around -3000 seconds, and food is probably gonna be around 3000 seconds as well. So your recipe wont work in any reality.

You might ask what good is the duration buff is if we also increase the duration costs, well we can break that down with this very scientific equation
base duration - durability costs = product duration (100-90=10)
3x base duration - 3x duration costs = 3x product duration (300-270=30)
so the product duration will always see a 3x increase

Yeh so all in all, in your case its just a case of bad maths and misinformation

 

Doesn't necessarily detract from the argument. The much higher base duration for cooking would tend to push ingredients used in both cooking and alchemism to be either underpowered for alchemism or overpowered for cooking. It might be a negligible amount, but the effect is going to be there as long as ingredients used in both exist, provided they have the same duration decrease for both.

 

There is a very similar situation with ingredients for both Jeweling and any of the other four professions that make armor/weapons. Either the ingredient is quite strong for Jeweling and balanced for the other profession or balanced for Jeweling and weak for the other profession, neither of which are ideal situations.

I've said this before but I want to bring this up again because I think it's a very dangerous issue if left unchecked.

 

If an ingredient consists of two or more different professions with different power scaling, eg. jeweling and weapon, or as you said, cooking and alchemism, the ingredient is always balanced more towards the weaker one. For alchemism and cooking's case in particular, they will usually have cooking's durability cost. But yeh it is hard to avoid the situation you described, if you or anyone have any ideas on how to fix that feel free to let us know.

 

Oh, didn't know you were tripling the duration cost too, sorry about that but I do still feel that the argument is relevant to some extent, I'll think about some ideas later to perhaps fix that. Ofc, the most obvious choice is to make each profession have a different type of durability but that would probably not be a good way to go about it.

 

Couldn't the ingredients used in professions with differing power scaling have separate durability / duration costs for each of the professions when needed, or is that too much of a hassle to code into the system?

 

im sorry sir, you cannot post this due to article 13. please rid me of this inhumane torture.

 

is there any use for morph now other than just for sp?

 

100% loot and xp bonus and 6/4 mana regen is nice i guess

 

Bro can't believe @Toy__ is gone the consumable duration buff is live in game already!

 

Unfortunately, @Toy__ had 0 duration, which is why he is gone, and 3x0 is still 0
RIP Toy__ :(

 

Here's a new Earthsky Equinox if anyone wants to mess around with it. It seems fine now, you can get some decent stuff out of it. Here's a quick mock-up: https://wynndata.tk/s/D6xhLG

 

What are you saying, I thought Toy__ was removed form the item pool ages ago.

 

thanks papa

here's a free cooking recipe in celebration: 5x dried gill and 1x golden avia feather arranged as such
g|g
f|g
g|g

+1 charge
+42-83% xp bonus
+26-65% loot bonus
~2370 duration (assuming t2 materials) (this is about 39.5 minutes)

the single best xp consumable in the game (except for maybe replacing feather with marrow)

also golden avia feather is funnily enough one of the best cooking ingredients, one charge for a negligible duration cost
i don't see any reason not to use it to extend the "duration" of every single recipe through adding a charge

 

Nice one. Also Draconic Bone Marrow

[Draconic Bone Marrow][Dried Gill]
[Dried Gill][Golden Avia Feather]
[Salt][Dried Gill]
+3 Charges (total 5 charges)
~2700 durability assuming T2 materials (around 45 minutes)
+44-81% xp bonus
+26-63% loot bonus

 

+1 tier attack speed

 

Anyone else just fill out the application just for the sake of doing it? (Maybe or maybe not ever going to submit it...)

 

its a good practice if you're interested in eventually trying your chance

 

Powder nerf as ingredients when

 

Monster buff dab