Info Item Team Thread - Item/ingredient/major Id Changes, Updates & More

victor addressed rainbow already
and bruh are you expecting the item team to fix an entire class when its mechanics are completely outside of their control?

 

you guys as an entire wynncraft staff entity. Every content creator, coder, item maker etc.

 

We need to see some Az and Archangel buffs honestly. Those mythics be suffering.

 

The eye is a fight where a bunch of warrior's problems (hybrid damage, knockback, mana steal) are pretty much negated by the fact that the eye is stationary and doesn't take knockback. The problems with collapse don't really make a big difference there. The only thing the video shows me is that it still took you 12 minutes to kill the eye on a glassy dps build, whereas tankier spears with less risk can do it in much less time.

 

One can also very much say the eye is a fight where tanky warrior builds excel as glassy warrior builds just arent able to chip in damage. Thats not collapses problem, its warriors problem.

Oh also I personally did do LI with the same exact build and collapse a lil earlier with no real issues other than the fact that warrior is poopoo and it did feel like collapse is genuinely one of the more powerful mythic spears, especially compared to thrundacrack, another glassy warrior spear.

Collapse gets about the same damage with way more ehp than Thrunda.

 

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will this be obtainable?

 

Yes, most previously unobtainable items are being made obtainable.

 

all unobtainable items?

 

Not sure if all but basically all, may have to ask the IMs

Btw, by all i don’t mean you stuff like the pumpkin helmet, more stuff like gale’s sight

 

not blood moon sad sad

 

If I understood this correctly, those items will be obtainable as dungeon drops, which means those item rains after finishing a dungeon, like Witherhead's Bow and Arakadicus' Body are currently obtained. They have also been in the public API for a long time (just check the Unobtainable tag on Wynndata), so it's pretty exciting to finally see them be added.

Probably the appropriate dungeons would be
Tisaun's Valor - CSST/CIB/FF
Gale's Sight - CUC
Ensa's Faith - CIP
Remikas' Authority - GG
Rycar's Elation - GG
Ohms' Rage - UR
Cerid's Ingenuity - IB
Based on level.

Which leaves Gnomish Topper, Blood Moon and Pirate Queen's Ring of Rubies. I don't expect those to get into the game anytime soon, considering they won't be added with this update either- one is probably just an accidental copy or WIP of another item (Ring of Rubies), and the others seem like scrapped quest quest rewards- maybe Blood Moon was an alternate/extra reward for Memory Paranoia, and Gnomish Topper one for The Bigger Picture. Either way, excited for the items that are getting in, I'd suggest getting a couple keys as well.

 

Yeah, the Pirate Queen's Ring of Rubies thing was a bit of an item fiasco back when the quest was first being made- essentially, I was asked to make the Pirate Queen's Ring of Rubies the reward for the quest, so I named it that, but since the pirate queen also drops that as an item, it broke the hopper for the quest which opens the door, as well as allowing people to get infinite amounts of them. So, we had to hastily remove that item and make a copy, which, well...yeah. The only reason it continues to exist is because people might've hung onto it for ages and we don't want a broken item on our hands.

 

Bless.

 

GIVE COLLAPSE SUPER SLOW.
That sp buff doesn't really mean anything. The only thing I can see it will work is using a piece of hive armor. where that extra 10 sp might come in handy.

 

Well, it certainly is a start for making Collapse better, although it does need some extra stuff (super slow on rainbow is a bit e currently though, so keep that in mind while suggesting it).
I'm more glad that this happened because it means that a. the rainbow reqs are not glued to the current numbering gimmick that would nearly always make at least one of them really good and one other really bad (see current Fantasia being stuck to almost a singular build and Nulli and Freedom doing whatever the hell they want whenever and wherever they want), and b. it still is actually a Freedom nerf and Collapse/Fantasia buff, although there is a bit of a glaring issue with the first two called "any rainbow build will have 40 sp anyway because Rainbow Sanctuary is so damn required". Which could also use a higher req, IMO, although it does entirely depend on what happens when rainbow is reached with the recent armor changes.

 

Okay, now that I've tested, I get the impression that Black Catalyst is a little too strong in general, but a bit weak in TFA. Personally, I think it should lose the spell damage percent (all of it) and get a bit more spell cost percents (something like -18% each).

 

explain what does "bit e" mean

Freedom is more a nighthawk problem, but a nerf in damage is definitely needed.

 

Most freedom builds with high dps, including the op meta freedom nighthawk build, include rainbow sanc. Rainbow sanc has reqs on all stats of 35 already, and it has +5 skill points in all stats. So any build that had rainbow sanc already had 40 sp in every stat, and the new change doesn't affect them at all. Builds with libra are similar, but libra has 30 reqs with +8 so they would require assigning 2x5 more sp past what libra gives.

The problem meta freedom nighthawk rsanc etc. build still exists. Most people build dps freedom with rainbow sanc and the new change doesn't affect them at all.

A bunch of this thread has already discussed how nerfing freedom's support stats (health + mana + agi) or significantly tuning down the damage can help. Please consider these alternatives, because once again your nerf changes nothing.

 

Literally every rainbow weapon has a downside besides Freedom (maybe you can argue poison for nulli but still Freedom literally have no negative attributes).

A good nerf to freedom would be +5 cost for arrow storm to prevent nighthawk abuse.