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Info Item Team Thread - Item/ingredient/major Id Changes, Updates & More

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Selvut283, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. Wackolo

    Wackolo the converger CHAMPION

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    Buff ambivalence its worse than dogwater now.
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/ambivalence-died-for-what.301513/#post-3536581
     
  2. Castti

    Castti Kookie HERO

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    Ambivalence still BiS for many builds.
     
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  3. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    Ambivalence is still best in slot on passive dps builds, and consider that panoptes is not the only thing (released or unreleased, btw) that can abuse ambivalence. I think I've said this before but if it's between changing a significant amount of abilities on multiple trees or just changing one already gimmicky item, we're gonna be changing the one item every time. In fact, we already did that before with this update; see The Nothing.
     
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  4. Wackolo

    Wackolo the converger CHAMPION

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    Sure, but if I’m compensating with Aphotic, Time Rift, or even Broken Balance - there’s a problem…
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    According to who?
     
  5. Castti

    Castti Kookie HERO

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    Me

    But I literally do not care enough to argue.
     
  6. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    I do not see how you using Time Rift and Aphotic is particularly relevant to an Ambivalence nerf my friend
     
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  7. Wackolo

    Wackolo the converger CHAMPION

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    I’m using other spell % damage items because ambivalence is less valuable
     
  8. Werveh

    Werveh numba 1 shaman CHAMPION

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    aphotic and time rift both have int reqs and broken balance has massive -sp on top of taking up the boot slot. ambivalence is in the necklace slot and it had basically zero downside for passive dps builds. deserved nerf even if you want to argue that it was too harsh.
     
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  9. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    There's also literally no build that drops ambivalence and adds apho/trift/broken balance... this user definitely went to wynndata and searched by spell% which also reflects a misunderstanding of the damage formula
     
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  10. one_ood

    one_ood c lown VIP

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    shut up i do this too
     
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  11. Namakobushi

    Namakobushi Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    Okay but maybe lower the spell costs on ambivalence some more then?

    Ignoring water % and other spell costs other than 3rd because too much math:
    It used to be almost a 1% 3rd spell cost increase per 2% spell damage. Now it's 2% 3rd spell cost increase for 1% spell damage.
    Maybe decrease spell costs so 3rd is closer to a 1:1 ratio? Still worse than before, solves the problem of slapping a ton of spell damage %, but still does a cool, perhaps viable thing? Idk.
     
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  12. hppeng

    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    kinda the whole point is that its not worth it for 99% of builds

    that way it doesn't become a balance nightmare but can still exist in very very niche/meme cases
     
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    Enderae Wanderer of the Realm VIP

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    *laughs nervously in literally-doing-that-to-this-day*
     
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  14. Castti

    Castti Kookie HERO

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    I have been in and out of class building since 1.19 and I gotta be real here

    I still do this sometimes. Nothing wrong with it.
     
  15. Wackolo

    Wackolo the converger CHAMPION

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    called out lmao
     
  16. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    Patch 11 Item Changes!

    As promised, mana values have been changed from their initial 5x increase. Compared to 1.20, mana regen values have been multiplied by 6 and mana steal values have been multiplied by 4. The following items did not receive this change (though may have gotten other changes, which will be listed) All Mythics, Conduit of Spirit, Gigabyte, Deux, Soulflare, Alternator, Cloak of Luminosity, Bantisu's Approach, Metamorphosis, Hive Weapons, Tragedy, WitherString, Scytodidae, Hard Light, Lunar Spine, Exhibition, Anima-Infused Cuirass

    The following items have been reverted to their pre-2.0 state
    Entamyx, Gysdep
    Electro Mage Boots
    spellCostRaw1: -5 -> -4
    spellCostRaw2: 5 -> 4
    spellCostRaw3: -5 -> -4

    Chain Rule
    spellCostRaw1: -5 -> -4
    spellCostRaw2: -5 -> -4
    spellCostRaw3: -5 -> -4
    spellCostRaw4: -5 -> -4

    Conduit of Spirit
    manaSteal: 15 -> 10

    Thrundacrack
    spellCostRaw3: -6 -> -4

    Augoeides
    spellCostRaw3: -5 -> -3

    Prayer
    spellCostRaw3: -5 -> -3

    Anaerobic
    spellCostRaw1: -8 -> -3
    strengthBonus: 12 -> 0

    Matryoshka Shell
    spellCostRaw1: -5 -> -3

    Sorrow
    spellCostRaw1: -8 -> -5

    Harmony
    spellCostRaw3: -5 -> -3

    Ossuary
    spellCostRaw3: -4 -> -3

    Ophiolite
    spellCostRaw1: -6 -> -3

    Ionosphere
    spellCostRaw1: -4 -> -3

    Steamstone
    spellCostRaw3: -6 -> -3
    spellCostRaw4: -3 -> -2

    Symphony
    spellCostRaw4: -6 -> -3

    Scaldsteppers
    spellCostRaw1: -6 -> -3

    Condensation
    spellCostRaw3: -6 -> -3

    Aquarius
    spellCostRaw1: -7 -> 0
    manaRegen: 25 -> 40 (includes mr buff)

    Aphotic
    spellCostRaw3: -7 -> -3

    Leviathan
    spellCostRaw3: -6 -> -3

    Wasteland Azalea
    spellCostRaw3: -6 -> -3

    Alternator
    manaSteal: 10 -> 12

    Lunar Spine
    manaRegen: -330 -> -333
    manaSteal: 110 -> 132

    Cloak of Luminosity
    manaRegen: 5 -> 6
    manaSteal: 5 -> 6
    bonusThunderDamage: 5 -> 4
    bonusWaterDamage: 5 -> 4

    Rapids
    spellCostRaw2: 0 -> -5

    Metamorphosis
    manaRegen: -5 -> -4
    manaSteal: -5 -> -4

    Updraft
    dexterity: 45 -> 0
    agility: 0 -> 45

    Equalizer
    manaRegen: 5 -> 6
    manaSteal: 5 -> 6

    Shockwave
    dexterity: 50 -> 30
    agility: 50 -> 30

    Tephra
    strength: 40 -> 25
    defense: 35 -> 20

    Logistics
    spellCostRaw1: 5 -> 3
    spellCostRaw3: 5 -> 3
    spellCostRaw4: -5 -> -6

    Corkian Jet Boots
    spellCostRaw2: 0 -> -8

    Steamjet Walkers
    spellCostRaw2: 0 -> -4

    Two item reworks!

    Aldorei's Vision
    slots: 2
    waterDamage: 45-60
    airDamage: 45-60
    attackSpeed: SLOW
    level: 82
    agility: 65
    agilityPoints: 7
    manaRegen: 6
    lifeSteal: -150
    speed: 15
    reflection: 15
    soulPoints: 15
    spellCostRaw1: -6
    spellDamage: -30
    spellDamageRaw: -100

    Exhibition is now called Collection, and has a new design! What will happen with it's old concept? Stay tuned... maybe bother Pepo about it while you're at it (ok don't bother him tho)

    That's all for now, just ~1,000 total items changed (mana lol). More is in the works for patch 12!
     
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  17. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Could it be any more obvious I'm active again lmao
     
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  18. OriTheSpirit

    OriTheSpirit Feesh Time 24/7 CHAMPION

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    Goodbye Aquarius 1st spell cost you will not be missed.
     
  20. Werveh

    Werveh numba 1 shaman CHAMPION

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    shoutout to all the people who dropped 30+ LE on 7*** mana aquarius'