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Info Item Team Thread - Item/ingredient/major Id Changes, Updates & More

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Selvut283, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. AmbassadorDazz

    AmbassadorDazz Discord Killjoy Staff Member Moderator HERO

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    My opinions about the Mythic changes are in italic. I'm not a class builder so take everything I say with a grain of salt.
     
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    Werveh numba 1 shaman CHAMPION

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    gotta break the bank on a perfect 3rd cost slayer now
     
  3. BlueTheSniper

    BlueTheSniper Founder of Blue Builds CHAMPION

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    yall sleeping on moontower BUFF
     
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    btdmaster Famous Adventurer VIP Item Team

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    just fyi everything in a reply is in italics so you technically can't actually tell
     
  5. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    The Guardian nerf is like Christmas, but more enjoyable.
     
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  6. Qzphs

    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    how is it a buff? my current stance is currently similar to druser's, i'd like to hear some other opinions
     
  7. Skylaar

    Skylaar erm VIP+

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    It isnt even a buff its like they took the item and changed a few stats to say they changed the item it still looks completely irrelevant to me
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    it's not obviously irrelevant. most mythics don't like it because they either crash sp or still can't afford 70/80 reqs outside their element, but maybe this works with some legendaries? idk
     
  9. Skylaar

    Skylaar erm VIP+

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    I cant even think of a single situation in whcih i would need to use moontower
    iirc there arent even any items with 150 agi req, and really your build will likely feature a lot of sp from the rest of your items anyways, so in effect youre wasting a slot that could be used for a really good boots or even a better mythic boots
    I mean its good for what it does, the problem is that what it does isnt good
     
  10. Qzphs

    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    not all builds are going to be rife with sp.

    disso, for example, appreciates it a lot:
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Dissociation
    > Powder Snow
    > Efteling
    > Moontower
    > Intensity
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Vortex Bracer
    > Diamond Hydro Necklace
    > Morrowind [a6w6w6]

    to be fair, this claim isn't great since 1. this build isn't that strong, 2. the mt change is a direct nerf to this build. but while i agree that moontower isn't good, i don't like your reasoning.
     
  11. MlecznyHuxel99

    MlecznyHuxel99 Fruman walls guy VIP+

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    Rip 15 agi points on gma, deserved tbh
     
  12. q_

    q_ Life is soup, I am fork CHAMPION

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    how did ya'll manage to turn inferno into an even worse version of flameshot hilt
     
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    q_ Life is soup, I am fork CHAMPION

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    ok nvm it's actually a good buff ty very cool
     
  14. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Thoughts on the new mythics and fableds:
    • Convergence looks pretty strong to me. Base damage is on the lower side, but instant 1 cost uppers is whew (slap Draoi for easy 2/1 costs)
    • Queztalcoatl would have been a really interesting item on any class not named Mage. Considering its terrible base damage and bad defensive capabilities, it looks like a trash tier unusable item.
    • Epoch is probably balanced in theory, with weak damage for a mythic but great supporting stats.
    • Oblivion is cursed. It's the embodiment of IMs having to design items around Wynncraft's bug-ridden mechanics.
    • Immolation looks pretty cool. I'd need to build-test to see how viable it is though, since it's the type of design that really walks the razor's edge between overpowered and unusable.
    • Narcissist is just boring...
    • One would assume Inhibitor has something we don't know about yet.
     
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  15. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer Item Team CHAMPION

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    correction: base damage on convergence isn't even that low actually (above idol). this thing is nuts
    agree on quetzl
    epoch looks cronked with slayer cost support
    oblivion is hilarious
    agree on the rest, although narcissist was shown to have some majid
     
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  16. xSuper_Jx

    xSuper_Jx IM | 119 Mythics Found Item Team CHAMPION

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    this is what i wrote in our chat yesterday about loading the new mythics into the game... yes very funny

    Quetzalcoatl should have VERY_FAST attack speed... whoops
     

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  17. starx280

    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    NEW MYTHICS

    WHAT

    WHY
     
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  18. Epicness937

    Epicness937 Thesead water god. HERO

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    Ahhhhh damn you guys I think y'all are gonna get me hooked on wynn again with these new mythics
    Anyways dicking around with them in wynnbuilder I think the following.

    Convergence is super epic. covers elemental combos that guardian, and idol didn't really fit before (mainly ewf)

    Quetzalcoatl better have a major id cause LIFE STEAL OVER HEALS ON MAGE is not "quirky and special" but just fucking stupid and no one uses it. That said if it has some major that does something like make heal an offensive spell...then hell yeah

    Epoch Looks like it's gonna be a super powerful eta bow or something along those lines. Typing on archer def looks weird and I wouldn't expect it to see tons of spell usage but idk

    Immolation I don't have the sanity to build test. However I doubt it's balanced. Like Druser said it's one of those items that's gonna be godly or terrible.

    Oh yeah and Oblivion looks like a tool to push the maximum melee dps output even further beyond.
     
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  19. starx280

    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    Convergence:
    Item Hash:
    CI-10000BConvergence025040103058090570-900A07105-1150B07100-1200F30M0201e0N00Q020110R0201B0X010K0i010Du130200H18140200H1817010Bk1E0230q1X1K010Du

    Item Link:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/custo...10Du130200H18140200H1817010Bk1E0230q1X1K010Du
    Quetzalcoatl:
    Item Hash:
    CI-10000CQuetzalcoatl025040104057090525-450C0545-750E0550-700F50M0201d0N20O020160S020160X010K0m0206hSw0t0108a0w023OOD80-0200s3h110231e0u1L01013

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    Epoch:
    Item Hash:
    CI-100005Epoch0250401030590907500-6200C07520-6000D07480-6400F00M0201c0N30P020160S020160k0106Q0m0203uGn0n013110t013QE0-0203dFe1B013111H013111J0200L1R

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    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/custo...n013110t013QE0-0203dFe1B013111H013111J0200L1R
    Immolation:
    Item Hash:
    CI-10000AImmolation02504010305B0A07200-4400C07310-3300F20M0201b0N40R0201G0S0201G0W010o0X010o0i0233g1+0w023ttU510010Ex11023KKAy12010Ex1E013GU

    Item Link:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/custo...233g1+0w023ttU510010Ex11023KKAy12010Ex1E013GU
    Oblivion:
    Item Hash:
    CI-100008Oblivion02504010405A09051-2000B07600-9990D07600-9990F00M0201b0N10P0201B0Q020110U010F0j013D70n010110s010Cq0x010Cq0+0201G5P1D01335

    Item Link:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/custo...F0j013D70n010110s010Cq0x010Cq0+0201G5P1D01335

    This took me way too long | People who do this, my respect for you has gone THROUGH the ROOF.

    UPDATE - 9/26/2021:
    I swapped the negative stats on all the items, turns out building engines take the « max » stat as the « best » and « min » stat as the « worst »

    It should be good now though o/
     
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  20. BlueTheSniper

    BlueTheSniper Founder of Blue Builds CHAMPION

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    "NEED". I don't NEED to use any build. Does that stop me from using Dissociation Moontower Lumina heavy hybrid? Heck no. The SP change opens up opportunity for ETWA now
     
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