Incorporeal Undead In Wynn

I just had a thought. Maybe there isn't as much random ghosts roaming around in Wynn compared to Gavel because there is a direct entrance to the Underworld in Wynn? Underworld Crypt dungeon is based off of the Greek Underworld. How the Greeks described it, once someone died, their souls had the urge to cross River Styx and get to the Underworld, and the only way to do that is to find an entrance to it and pay Charon to get carried across the river. So any dead person in Wynn that is buried correctly is most likely will end up in the Underworld and won't roam around as some wraith or specter. Ghosts of dead in the Ragni Sewers are killed by corruption or Witherhead and the corrupted miners were executed and thrown into the 'pit of dead' and were stuck in the mortal world. There is no known way to get to the Underworld in Gavel so any dead will just be stuck as undead.

 

That's a good thought. And, since we now are getting dungeon quests which may explore the lore with Underworld Crypt, we might see an actual answer

 

I wonder how lore-based the dungeon quests will be. I hope they include a fair amount of lore, because they have the potential to do so. Also, do I remeber seeing something about the Door of Time finally having a use in the Ice Barrows dungeon quest?

 

I tried out the first dungeon quest, and it gave a fair bit of lore. I'm excited for the door of time stuff tho

 

Oh cool. I probably won't do them for a while, at least until Dern comes, then I'll make a new class probably to play through.

 

I've just completed the Underworld Crypt quest, and the place you go in looks A LOT like Death's realm! Absolutely everything is gray, there is a bunch of lost souls wandering there, and there is only one single chunk of color - a way back to the Overworld. From that quest it seems one of the reasons Wynn doesn't have as much ghosts is that Charon is attaching the souls of the dead back to their corpses and uses them as his personal chess pieces for a war against mortals. Maybe if the dialogue in the dungeon itself was updated and has something more informative than "boo im charon im stronk", I should check it out.

 

Please do. This theory was kind of scrapped due to stuffs, but if that's now part of the Charon lore, I would be really interested in learning more. It may get unscrapped.

 

In the Dead Island, there are these "Awakened Spirit" mobs in the graveyard, if that is close to what you're looking for.

 

Are we sure Charon is waging war against mortals? It always seemed to me that he was only defending the passage to the underworld from those who weren't supposed to be there (there's a long mythological thing across multiple cultures of mortals trying to enter the underworld, to varying degrees of success. Let's not forget that Charon is a character lifted directly from Greek mythology without even changing his name. He's the ferryman of Hades (possibly why there's that boat bit in the dungeon) who takes the dead across the rivers Styx and Acheron. He's not really all that powerful, and he just serves Hades. I'm also guessing that possibly when someone becomes a corrupted undead, their soul is lost and they cannot return. It would explain what was going on in that version (which I think may be a sort of limbo state halfway to Death's Realm. It looks like Death's Realm, but it's actually a monochrome copy of present-day Ancient Nemract, where the souls of the dead there are doomed to repeat what they did.

I am also thinking up another theory, that goes something on the lines of that Death from Beyond the Grave is a fake, and Krolton only knocks you out and kidnaps you. This is partly based on Slykaar's Realm, which looks a lot like Death's Realm as well but clearly isn't (and seems to have been created by a human), and how the area we see in Death's Realm looks nothing like anything in the overworld (the way the Ancient Nemract we see in Dark Descent does)...

 

So TWO fake deaths?