Serious / In The News | Brett Kavanaugh Sexual Assault Claims

Just a little update on the case:
https://apple.news/Arh1LwfHdQVC2ytvK21fVDQ

It’s not directly related, but it is some of the first concrete evidence in the whole situation.

 

A) I never labelled Dr Ford a feminazi, this was simply a general comment geareds towards American society in general
B) Never underestimate the power of lynch mobs
C) I suck at phrasing my thoughts in a complete and fair manner, go to Salkasm's profile page to see how it can bite me in the ass.

 

That’s my point; it makes it seem that anyone who disagrees with you or sympathies with Ford is a feminazi, which isn’t helpful in any discussion. It's one of the main reasons why people don't agree with each other because they label each other.

Again, if you want someone on the other side to see your point, you don't compare them to a lynch mob. None of Ford's supporters have committed any violent protest or killed someone they disliked.

 

O O F, I meant that the lynch mob attitude is ganging up on people who disagree. Also it was directed towards the state of the world in general, not this in particular. People on both sides of the argument have a tendancy to gang up on other people in order to suppress their viewpoint. I guess that I too am party to blame for this

 

It’s not the end of the world, it’s just good to be aware of it. Like you said, we all do it sometimes.

 

Whether Brett actually did it or not, his hearing shows he’s not fit at all for the position he’s running for. He was constantly throwing, “What about you?” Around every time he was asked a relatively difficult question, he had multiple breakdowns over talking about random things, becoming outraged at the whole thing. It makes sense Ford would have a difficult time getting through it, and even she did it way better than brett. So case aside, he really doesn’t deserve his position. As for the case, there’s not a whole lot of proof, but I have a hard time thinking Ford would sacrifice her entire career for this, even though she stated that she knew it might not go anywhere.

 

If someone came for me publicy with an outlandish claim, that not only has been falling in terms of credibility but also will forever jeapiradize my public image for the rest of my career, I would be pretty mad as well. Throughout the entire case not only did Ford blatently lie on the stand but for most of the trial was very emotionally infused. And just most of the events leading up to the case from how the accusation was made with no prior evidence, how the fact that when a witness or evidence did come up, it was like a coin flip whether the piece of evidence was either relevant or credible, which shouldn't even happen in the first place. So there was plently to be mad about during the trial on Kavanah's part, I don't excuse him for dodging some questions but ignoring Ford's shaky backing and almost purely emotionally charged behavior is doing the entire trial a diservice. I would also like to point out that I 100% think that Ford fully knew that she would get a lot of backlash from this event. If she was apparently scared 35 years ago for backlash she is certainly going to get more now that she waited for a suspiciously coincidental moment in time.

 

People realize that her timing is 100% planned, but that’s not a bad thing?? Like her highschool rapist is running for one of the most powerful positions in America, she’s obviously gonna speak up because she doesn’t want to see someone like that in power like that. And she mentioned plenty of people she’d told when it happened and they all agreed that she had mentioned it when it happened. As for the accused, you realize what position he’s going for? He can’t afford to have any strong emotional feelings, this is evidence that he doesn’t belong, that he’s not emotionally stable enough.

 

If she didn't want to have the controversy of trying to stop a person in power 35 years later she should've told someone when he was just a normal HS kid. And if she truely did tell people and people even confirmed it like you said. Why didn't not even one of them mention it to the local police? Even then, I'm having a hard time believing Ford's witnesses when some of them went against her own claim. And apparently people were fine with Kavanah's behavior all of the accusations came in. Personally, may not be true, but I feel that a lot of news outlets only spotlighted Kavanah's behavior because of all of the holes in Ford's claim.

 

Ford sent a letter to Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein in July about the incident, and it was Feinstein that purposely withheld the letter until it was politically convenient for her.

There are still plenty of holes in her story, but if you really want to blame someone for the convenient timing, blame Feinstein.

 

I was aware about the letter but still doesn't excuse lack of evidence or waiting 35 years to tell a person in an authoritative position. Regardless. the letter should've released earlier though.

 

True, USA Today highlights all the holes well: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1497661002

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Either way, it’s extremely unlikely that Kavanuagh is going to get prosecuted, especially since her allegations don’t meet the preponderance of evidence standard.

 

I didn't realize the withheld letter thing, so thanks for clearing that up.

I don't think anyone expects him to get prosecuted, but the point was to try and expose the type of person trying to run for the position. What's crappy is that even if people believe her, they're still rooting for him because they think he's still a great fit. Which is honestly bs. Nothing about him helps him stick out and make people wanna vote for him other than republicans wanting to stick it to the Democrats. There are plenty of people pretty much just like him that haven't been called out for highschool crimes.

 

I could understand if you don’t like him because of his politics. After all, none of this would be happening in the first place if Republicans hadn’t stalled Obama’s SC nominee confirmation.

But what’s different about saying that he shouldn’t be nominated because of his politics and because he sexually assaulted someone is that in the latter his whole career is destroyed. And like you said, people would prefer not to deal with him over people who haven’t been accused, regardless if he actually committed the crime or not. Which violates justice and creates an environment where people can falsely accuse someone to ruin their career and get away with it. And then it’s not really about truth anymore for both parties; it’s about promoting an agenda. If the Democrats really cared about Ford they never would have withheld that letter.

 

I think my biggest problem with all of this isn't the letter being withheld, or whether he did or didn't do the crime, nothing about any of that. What really strikes me in this whole thing is how he was acting while on trial. You can see how he handles situations like this, and that kind demeanor is not something that strikes me as fitting to be in a place of political power. Whether he did it or not, this whole fiasco shows that he's really not fit to be a judge in any situation.

 

Idk, I just don’t see how that could disqualify him. It’s not like SC justices act like that when they are deciding a case.

 

I mean, if he is going to be a judge, don't you think he'd have to be able to handle being judged? Not only did he question dodge a lot, but he did it in an incredibly disrespectful way. Someone who can't keep their cool while being questioned is not someone I think should be questioning others.

 

Question dodging is inexcusable. I guess I see what you mean now.

It’s just that I worry that people can be too easily swayed and manipulated by emotional testimonies, causing them to disregard the content of them. Maybe it’s also because I would have a hard time keeping my cool if I was in that situation.

 

It can be difficult to keep cool in a situation like that, I understand. But what if he is faced with a case that is personal to him and his experiences? I mean can we trust him to have a fair judicial trial if he's getting worked up?

 

Hmm... After this his bias would be thrown into question in cases of sexual assault. I’m not quite sure how I feel about his nomination now.