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Info Im Team Applications + Item Rebalance Changelog

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Selvut283, Apr 10, 2017.

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  1. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Oh, I guess why the nerfs then in the first place? I mean I guess you could argue either way, but then what’s the point if the change is insignificant?

    I don’t really care either way, I’m just a little curious.
     
  2. Gigavern

    Gigavern Giant Fern VIP+

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    It's implied when we say "stronger than other non-mythic weapons" that those non-mythic weapon builds will be using Hive Armors to compensate the difference in strength, which should lend itself to them being equal in the long run.

    As you know, the reason Hive gears are warranted extra strength is because of the quest. However, in order to not overshadow other items, you can only use one per division. Thusly, each piece places a check on the other pieces, making it so that despite their strength, Hive items won't ruin the usage of other items. However, this relies on each Hive Armor having similar levels of absolute power and overlapping niches so that these checks remain effective.

    As a result thing, the thing that was debated for the longest time (even before the initial buff to them) was whether Hive Weapons were too rewarding (after the buff) by comparison to the Hive Armors.

    Personally, I don't think the given explanation is very effective at communicating these ideas.
     
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  3. tig

    tig "Because EO parkour killed my grandma, OK???"

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    Apparently Guild XP and level 101 dont exist...
    this is more bullshit than the sp nerf
     
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  4. KeyTheKhaos

    KeyTheKhaos Conduit of Spirit

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    I don't really understand the health Regen craze that's going on in this update. I understand what raw health Regen, and percent is supposed to do. But while playing, I don't feel it at all. These notes give me the assumption that lifesteal is affected by regen, is that true. And if not, why worry so much about a stat that's barely being felt?
     
  5. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    Life steal isnt affected by hpr, there is a certain factor that determines how much hpr a certain tier x level item should get, if the item goes higher or lower for no reason, then it will be stronger/weaker than other items with hpr of similar tier/level that should have been otherwise. These minuscule changes are fixing this some of the issues on these items, the same goes for some of the base damage, life steal and raw damage id changes
     
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  6. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    That's just because hpr and lifesteal aren't very good outside of select scenarios (for the latter exploding and slow-speed chain lightning, for the former almost nothing).
     
  7. highbread

    highbread highbread HERO

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    exploding does not trigger life steal
    regardless, pure melee and hybrid builds can still utilize lifesteal quite effectively
     
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  8. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Maybe it's just archer where lifesteal sucks...
     
  9. Shots

    Shots Yellow Rose Enthusiast HERO

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    Back to running FF in full cosmic at 100 I go.
    Wait now I'm curious I forget even how much xp I got from doing FF in cosmic at 100 brb
     
  10. KeyTheKhaos

    KeyTheKhaos Conduit of Spirit

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    It is lol
    And for someone who's primarily into wars, I see the appeal in lifesteal. But that also might fuel my indifference towards hpr

    @SilverMirror
    Ah didn't realize it was just a tweaking mindset, thank you for the explanation. Also when's Conduit of Spirit coming back (>×~×)> Gimme gimmie
     
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  11. highbread

    highbread highbread HERO

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    yeah in wars there'll be mobs all over the place
    i would assume it's too difficult to avoid being hit all together so that would likely make health regen difficult to utilize
    however, in pve and pvb situations, they almost always won't have that massive amount of mobs. this makes it easier to have hpr active more often
    it's especially clear against bosses; there are very few mobs to worry about making it easier to avoid being hit
     
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  12. Lego_DW

    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

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    its boarderline impossible, its kinda useful with assassin cause of vanish but youre wasting time waiting for hpr when you could just use pots
    but on the flip side, when low ls like 150-200 isnt really worth it for bosses, its really useful for wars, i have a hybrid build i use for wars with ~160ls and dont die
     
  13. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW HIC Master HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Explain
     
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  14. by2011

    by2011 category creator VIP+

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    well without powder specials (btw quake/even courage works too) yes
     
  15. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    super fast chain lightning rip
     
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    by2011 category creator VIP+

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    idk use atlas
     
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  17. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    but am addicted to melee ;-;
     
  18. yellowscreen

    yellowscreen Certified Lurker

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    OH NO NOT THE PUNS NO NO NO


    Also fun fact: Sekaisin is Finnish. It pretty much means "confused", "disorganized", "haywire" and so on. Kinda fits it, to be honest. Fire and thunder? Random damages? -health, life steal, dexterity, walkspeed? It's just all over the place and crazy, fits it 100%. Nice to see that status is being reinforced.
     
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  19. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM CHAMPION

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    We're migrating to a new thread.

    Check it out here:

    WOW, NEW THREAD

    All the information that's on this thread will remain, but it will not be updated from here on out, except to be cleared out once the changes are added in.
     
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