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Any Class How do you compute if you have a crafted item?

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  1. ReachDaBeach24

    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    I am a level 68 boltslinger.

    I just bought a crafted chest plate called Abnormal Robe of Mana, which is not listed on wb. It's lv 68, has 1778 hp, +96 spell, +30% spell, +2 defense.
    Spectre helmet, which has 1298 hp (1600, but -302 in the rolled part), cuts main damage almost in half at 43%, but adds another 29% spell damage.
    Kratke leggings add another 11% spell damage and 4% of the main attack back.
    Wavelength boots - another 16% spell damage and another 7% of main back.
    Marble ring - another 6% spell plus 13 (pretty meaningless number at this point).
    Electric Toro adds another 6% back to main.
    I have good mana regen from a Photon ring along with a few other bonuses.
    Lots of elemental bonuses and deficits, but mostly positive.
    Current bow is a Spectral Slingshot.

    The boots and chest plate are new to me and between them I have 5 open powder slots. Not sure what to put in them.

    In game hp is 6201.

    If I am doing my math right, the spell bonuses add up to 92% and the main attack bonuses and deficit net out to about -26%. So shooting at on level mobs mostly gives me something to do until they get close and guardian angel absolutely destroys them. I road tested. Arrow bomb took out every mob I shot with a single shot. Arrow storm is a street sweeper. Based on other builds I have been specing out I am pretty sure it's over 50,000. I did my road test out the north gate of Cinfras and kept heading north. I finally died when I ran into a crush of mobs I was pretty sure was certain death on the off chance I was wrong.

    The only thing I can think of is searching through armor to find something similar to the chest plate, if there is such a thing, to get some idea of the numbers. Is there some way to add something in to wynnbuilder?
     
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  2. Earthbrine

    Earthbrine The Dirt of the Realm

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    In order to do that, you would have to know the crafting recipe. I don't think there is any way around it.
     
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    dogwqter Well-Known Adventurer

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  4. ReachDaBeach24

    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    Thanks. The bracelet is an issue I really want wynnbuilder for. I have Remika's Authority but wasn't able to get it equipped even though i seemed to have the points for it. Numbers are different than expected, but I forgot that I was looking at my planned lv 70 with Maelstrom as the bow. I guess I don't understand spell bonus or there is some other issue.
    I did this potential lv 70 build with Adamantite as the chest plate and Stalagmites as the boots:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...610000M10002410078G1000ES10000Szz++++-Vp+ehb2
    Neither the boots nor chest plate has spell boost. Here is the link you did, with the bow for 70, bracelet and abilities added:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder/#7_0mX01ECI-10000RAbnormal Robe of Mana0200510G020Ro0M020140X01020k010UU0+0201W1W0O60sL0RQ0uP0ZR0F50Q-0G0W0S120q1600000zz++++-Vp+ehb2
    Wit the chest plate and boot choices adding 30% and 17% spell boost, respectively. Yet the damage differences calculated go up by only around 10%.

    I did muddy the water with my current bow, which i had to use for my subjective road test.

    I was actually running around testing with this, because I substituted the Great Brace as the bracelet when I couldn't figure out how to equip Remika's.
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...RQ0uP0JH0F50mU0M0O0M0P0i1400000zz++++-Vp+ehb2

    This is what I was after for current use, to be able to use the bracelet I want:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...RQ0uP0ZR0F50mU0M0O0M120i1400000zz++++-Vp+ehb2

    Unfortunately, it doesn't work. Whn I get to the step of adding Remika's, it says in skill points I have 60 and it needs 60, but has the red X next to the requirement and won't let me equip it. Trying something, I upped the defense so that the original was 60, not just teh current based on other boosts. That works.

    The chest plate does have 3 slots also. Based on the numbers I am seeing, I guess earth for it and fire in the boots might make sense.

    I really appreciate the help.

    Still very confused; I know my testing is subjective, but I was getting out of some ridiculous situations that I was purposefully putting myself in. I know 35,000 dps in arrow storm is still quite a bit, but I wasn't far off that mark with a prior build that doesn't seem to have as much punch.

    I have a decision to make for 70 that wb doesn't address unless again I am unaware of the advanced features. I have 2 Maelstroms in the bank. One has 17% spell and 9% main at a cost of 423 hp. The other's numbers are 6%, 18% and 401. There are elemental numbers that differ that I am not looking at as hard and a significant difference in walk speed boost (17% vs 9%). Probably going with the first one. Interesting coincidence with the second one is my current hp, now outfitted with Remika's for the bracelet is 6401. Purely a silly mental thing, but that one keep me from dropping under 6000. But I have a level and a quarter before I face that decision.
     
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  5. your issue with remika's is that any + skill points on crafted gear don't actually count towards requirements on other pieces - just an odd balancing quirk of crafted stuff

    powdering your armor is rare even in endgame builds. i would not recommend doing it at your level because there is essentially no advantage to doing so

    you can account for non-optimal rolls in wynnbuilder by manually editing stats via the "edit IDs" button
     
  6. ReachDaBeach24

    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    So the default is to assume optimal rolls? Or do you mean below average as non optimal? I guess I need to learn to use Edit IDs. I do tend to pick through like items for bonuses I like.

    Thanks!
     
  7. wynnbuilder calculates damage as if all your items are perfect, yes
     
  8. dogwqter

    dogwqter Well-Known Adventurer

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    a main problem in most of the builds that you use is that your mana doesn't sustain well enough. If you're trying to use more spells than main attack, you have to have enough mana regen or mana steal to be able to cycle and use more spells.
     
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