Guide How Damage Is Calculated.

Then that needs to get fixed.

 

What is it supposed to be?

 

30% damage per basic hit, 120% final hit for a total 420% damage.

 

oh damn, that's pretty powerful.

 

I guess that it is now fixed.... I will test if the final hit got a buff too.
(need to find a Crystal Senbon first)

So now the correct formula to calculate the defenses should be the @Cosomos one:

Code:

rawElemDef + |rawElemDef| * (%elemDef / 100)

I'll also type this here for future reference and because it might help someone, weapons to easily test damages:

Code:

Bow Crackshot (neutral: 130-130)
Bow Polar Star (thunder: 100-100)
Bow The Rainmaker (neutral: 3-3)

Dagger Crystal Senbon (neutral: 70-70)
Dagger Eleven (neutral: 11-11)

 

It hasn't. The final hit deals 120% damage as it's supposed to; JP had a serverside damage indicator on which showed the calculations. It, before he touched Multihits, showed the damage as 20 and 120 for the hits, then later it showed 30.

Also worth noting, spell calculations work like this according to the indicator:

-ID/Skill points boosts/conversion are added to the base damage
-Element defense is calculated
-Attack speed multiplier is added
-Spell damage is added

 

this is pretty much how we already calculate them.... no?

 

I feel like I already asked this but I can't find where I did....

how does warrior strength influence the damage?

Code:

(Base Damage) x (Attack Speed Boost) x (Spell Multiplier) x (1+(Identification Boost))

is it an identification boost? a simple multiplier like the spell multiplier or atk speed boost? ...?

 

Hm, maybe I never included War Scream/Vanish's strength boost in the guide?
It was a while ago, but those spells' defense boost seemed to directly subtract from what I call here "ID boost". So I'd assume their strength boost also directly adds to ID Boost.
I'm not 100% sure, so you could fact-check that in game, if you need. Hopefully I'd be able to come on soon, so I'll do that when I can.

 

I already had in mind to test this and i'll do as soon as I have some time...
I tried asking just in case somebody already tested this in game :D

 

Silvah noticed a problem with this when neutral damage was going negative or when raw spell was negative, making neutral < 0

I did some testing and in the end the simplest way was to just add the raw spell damage (* spell multiplier) to the overall spell damage, positive or negative.
Just wanted to point this out ... it might not mean a difference if you count the neutral keeping a negative result (like -100--300) but I think most people would round that up to 0-0, that's not correct if the negative is caused by raw spell dmg.

 

Motoki: *writes this long guide about damage calculation*
Me: whot
[uses a phoenix wing against orange wybel]

 

Oh, thanks for letting me know!

I just tested it myself too, and found that the neutral can be negative if the total (including elemental damage) is positive, and, total damage doesn't go negative and heal the enemy, correct?

 

Tried with cluster+amulet of rej but I dont see the npc being healed... it just doesn't take any damage

 

yes the minimum damage you can do is 0

 

Sorry I meant that total damage doesn't go negative, so your attack never heals the enemy. You're correct.
Btw for Raw Melee, unlike Raw Spell, it doesn't seem like neutral melee damage go negative even if you had negative Raw melee.

 

hey im wondering a little bit about these fake numbers

who made them up?

 

Iirc Tantibus posted them.

 

Actually, I myself don't know about it, either. Those numbers were on the official wiki, and were well-known for spell/attack multiplier when I made this thread.

To clarify, I never (or at least I didn't intend to) stated those numbers as "Melee speed", but I quoted and used them for "Spell Damage Multiplier" in the thread. I'm not sure if anyone ever discovered the true "Melee speed", maybe the "faked" ones as I quoted are, or something else...?