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Game Design Hoppers Everywhere, Not A Fan

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by moreiron, Sep 27, 2016.

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Combat Hoppers; a sign of Corruption?

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  2. I hate them more than fetch quests

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  3. eh, I'm too awesome to really mind the inconvenience

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  1. moreiron

    moreiron Have Wand Will Travel VIP+

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    Okay so someone's new favorite design concept is dropping stuff in a hopper.
    While it is arguably not worse than the quest item hat collection that the Gavel update gifted us with, it sucks.
    Let me tell you why. Unlike the old uses of the hopper, which were of the drop-emeralds-on-every-carpet-you-see variety, while, I should ad, exploring a quiet, deserted space, the new use is:

    1: collect tokens. This sounds easy enough, but of course you need a free space on your hotbar, which given you are in heavy combat is annoying.

    2: place tokens in hopper. The small issue here is that in all the new dungeons I've tried, as well as the quest Enter The Dojo, you are hitting the hopper while being swarmed by mobs. Sometimes the screen is just close up swirling colors of mobs jumping on you, making it impossible to aim, and I believe they actually deflect your throw. Sometimes they are ranged, so you get knocked aside and miss the hopper in mid toss.
    The fact that they seem to have junk drops makes it really annoying, as you have to pick up your tokens after missing, while fighting them off, and getting crap out of your hot bar space, or going into your inventory because they dropped some junk which went in your hot bar space, now the tokens are in your inventory, and your still being swarmed...

    I understand that this is intentional. and is part of making it a challenge. It is making a challenge out of inventory mechanics. This is small scale whining.

    3: The big issue with hoppers: You Have Created An Accident Waiting To Happen. I have not, yet, blasted some mobs out of my way, turned back to the hopper, and missed the correct hot bar button and lost my horse. Yet. Or thrown before switching buttons, and lost my Az. Or done everything correctly, and had lag cause my loss.

    Update: Now I have, two hours after posting, two days after deciding to run the dungeons.

    Show of hands, how many of you have lost items to hoppers with the new use of them everywhere, especially during combat?
    It seems to me this is some new trick someone really liked, and used, and used. You didn't change the puzzles, so we are being attacked while doing them. We get peace and quiet to figure them out.
    So why create a challenge out of destroying something from your hot bar while under attack? Are you trying to increase rage quitting?

    I'm Perdustin, and I approved this message.
     
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  2. coolname2034

    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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  3. DirtyDoge

    DirtyDoge Master Procastinator HERO

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    Don't forget how the Hive and ToA collected items, specifically the hive.
    It seems so much easier for the CT, too.
     
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  4. thcv

    thcv Well-Known Adventurer

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    Seems that many times 'confusing or generally annoying' the player is an acceptable form of difficulty, which is unfortunate.

    Learned many years ago playing modded to set my drop key to 'none' (highlight it then hit ESC), some items are just to rare, expensive, or time consuming to replace.
     
  5. ElegantDeath

    ElegantDeath Who needs a title anyways HERO

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  6. moreiron

    moreiron Have Wand Will Travel VIP+

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    But glancing at your inventory screen and hitting a cube is far different from staging tokens in your hot bar, and then actually hitting a target.
    I imagine someone has dropped a weapon in the SeaSkipper's hopper, but that is in peace and quiet and carelessness. At least that is a place you blame yourself.
     
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  7. Exo_Savage

    Exo_Savage Skill.exe has stopped responing

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  8. JuicedBananas

    JuicedBananas Famous Adventurer HERO

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    You can drop it out of your inventory GUI without risking your white horse getting sucked down a hopper. I find this is easier than putting it on your hotbar.
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Shouldn't this be in the feedback section?
    But yeah I agree
     
  10. Saphyris

    Saphyris Travelled Adventurer

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    I changed my drop key to C, because I play with my hand arching up, not spread flat out on the keyboard.
    That way, I wouldn't accidentally drop a valuable when I tried to hit W, and since I have no keys mapped around that position, it's been better for me.
     
  11. Lexwomy

    Lexwomy Lexwomy HERO

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  12. moreiron

    moreiron Have Wand Will Travel VIP+

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    Wait, there's a feedback section?
    I moved mine to P, doesn't help when you are supposed to drop something. I moved Inventory to Y because I opened Inventory instead of running away one too many times.
    That would be one solution , hell make it something that costs a block a day to maintain.

    Update: well, I just threw my primary weapon in a hopper in the Sand Swept Dungeon. Now I get to fight the Boss with my back up! Yeah!
     
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    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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  14. Saphyris

    Saphyris Travelled Adventurer

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    Yeah, the inventory one is pretty crap :P
    Still, I keep it because it doesn't (fortunately) happen to me too much.
    I keep it at C because I can access it with the same hand I use to control my character, without going through the hassle of trying to use my mouse hand to drop items (That way, if a mob attacks me, I can retaliate very quickly).

    Rip your primary
     
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    I know someday i'm going to lose my horse or my weapon because of these hoppers... When it does, we should all rebel
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    I dropped my black horse once inside the hopper in twain's mansion.
     
  18. _Sephyr_

    _Sephyr_ Obvious satire HERO

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    Keep in mind that it is you who drop the wrong items into hoppers, it is not a flaw in the game...
     
  19. Ice Guy

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    Hive and ToA are quests and the system is different. So the token boxes wouldn't work in dungeons unless they changed the quest system somehow.
     
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    CTRL + Q. All tokens gone at once. Isn't that hard
     
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